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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptic zone

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episode number 94 for the sixth of

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August 2010 Richard Saunders here with

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you from Sydney Australia what a great

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show we've got coming up for you today

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especially if you're a fan and who isn't

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of dr. Phil Plait the bad astronomer dr.

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H and I caught up with Phil at the

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amazing meeting eight and had a great

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talk with him was like a lot of

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reminiscing and good fun so I hope you

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enjoy our interview with phil plait man

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that's followed by the think tank with

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special guest our good friend and

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Maynard our friend frota bastard cheap

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drunk and mad man myself and dr. AG not

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much more to say really and I'm not

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going to give Phil Plait of big

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introduction before the interview I ww

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bad astronomy calm former president of

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the James Randi Educational Foundation

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he's currently filming a great new TV

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show called bad universe for the

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Discovery Channel no I've just I've just

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given him an introduction so that

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interview is coming up right away so sit

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back grab that bloody mary and enjoy the

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mr. Lee put testing oi testing oi oi

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well here we are at tam 8 stop talking

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over the recording for Shh it wasn't me

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I swear with somebody else with an

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American accent we're here at time 8 in

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Las Vegas at the south point casino and

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we're hiding in the little tiny

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interview room upstairs near their

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convention i'm here with Richard

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Saunders hello and don't you feel plate

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hello Phil hi welcome to the zone I feel

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like I should be looking at the recorder

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while I'm while I'm talking up close to

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it you don't need to I'll face it so

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that you can hear me but I'll look at

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you guys out of the corner of our eyes

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like well lean over actually dr. AG so

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Phil is a very happy man today because

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he happened by our table earlier this

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morning and he left with an enormous oh

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here is what it is okay it's a pillow I

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don't see the weight on it anywhere it's

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a daughter negative ms yeah it's some

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Australians are smarter than Americans

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you know I know oh jeez metric yes when

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I read when I read that the energy

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content of a candy bar in kilojoules is

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that that's out of a physics lab don't

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you use some ridiculous unit like

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calories like we do then aren't even the

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physics calories they're actually

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kilocalorie yeah yeah insight on the

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front so I love that doesn't say on the

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front happy to I thought it would affect

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idols they feel like a kilo it's

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ninety-nine percent fat free that's good

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to know you know other 10 grams of fat

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in their particular thats a kilo ohm I

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think all right 1 1 kilogram there we go

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is folded on there all right yeah

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that'll keep me that will keep me

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chewing on those for I don't know I told

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continental drift brings

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in America together I think yeah I mean

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you won't have to worry Phil because

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you'll just be able to walk to the minty

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factory oh I would be so cool I

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contacted them i contacted Nestle

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Australia why and said I want to be the

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American pusher I want to I want to

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distribute these because i love your

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candy I've used them in my videos and

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and really this was just a ploy to get

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them to send them but the free candy

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yeah but but but honestly I don't want

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how do I get these in America and the

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answer is you spend 20 american dollars

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per kilo to get them shipped oh you're

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just go down a plea yeah and you get

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them suitable yeah i mean anybody i made

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that mistake what four years ago at sam

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and then I wound up with like 9 kilos

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and minties I took home and yeah and

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he's still the Middle East teeth yeah

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yeah it took almost a year to eat those

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by the way but nine Kayla you're so good

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I'm so excited Richard's very nice oh I

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was xeo as a combined effort iran was

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guy went to the shop to buy those ones

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but yeah like you're on a lot he's a

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massacre I introduced him last night to

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dr. Pamela gay I love me who is a friend

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of mine another stronger for those who

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don't know and that was kind of funny

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because Ron Pamela Pamela Anderson I've

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known Pamela many years she's an

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astronomer I love her dearly and Iran

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and I spent a week in a car together

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driving across the blue mountains that's

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right cuz you can't books when you came

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to Australia didn't yeah I'm trained yet

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I was trying to retrace my route again

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and we flew in i flew to sydney yeah you

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don't go and you and I walked all

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through the Botanical Gardens ever saw

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the battles of the back of the flying

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foxes and Sydney Harbour and the Opera

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House and then we went to some flea

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market or something where I got the

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little laser etched glass QR beings yes

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yeah i'm sure the readers are finding

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elizabeth richard infill reminisce

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member that have

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let's work hanging go awesome I saw so

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many Australians wearing it but it was

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it was just great and then we wound up

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we but we went to which Canberra yes and

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draw Blee i think was one of the trouble

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EE and lots of other wonderful places

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and then we all have shared the driving

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and it was terrific it was so much I

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wasn't I didn't come on the drive but I

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went with you to Canberra yeah and then

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we wound up at the radio telescope

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except two buddies had been built in

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there yeah and why we were there this

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thing's pointing up to the sky and they

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said oh what's happening now oh it's

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sending off a message to the rover on

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Mars yeah yeah yeah yeah it's not the

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one that subsequently burnt down in the

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camera bushfire no thank me when that

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was non stroma master amo oh yeah thank

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you for a second i blanked on the name

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that was devastating all you could see

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all the the paint that had bubbled off

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the the observatories and there was one

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telescope there was a 48 inch mirror so

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meter and a half whatever whatever you

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crazy Australian Jews and it was 17

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hogsheads across and it was basically I

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mean it doesn't they don't have tubes it

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metal grid work that held the telescope

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together and it had just melted in place

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and so the whole mirror just had sagged

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and the mirror itself which was a 48

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inch piece of glass substantial amount

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of glass had shattered in place so you'd

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walk up to it and it looked like a

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telescope mirror it's not the same shape

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and everything but as if somebody just

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whacked it with a hammer yeah it was

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just is that one of you picked off

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pieces off yeah we just shy a giant four

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shots the size of your hand yeah I still

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have one they let me keep one yeah got

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one and I have friends who've use that

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telescope they used it to look for

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gravitational lensing which is this idea

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that the gravity of an object can act

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like a lens bending light and you can

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see more distant objects magnified and

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brighter this way it's actually it's a

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way of looking for planets around other

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stars as these planets pass you have a

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star say I don't know thousand

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thousand light years away when they line

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planet you will actually see a gradual

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again from the planet so you get this to

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a double bump and you can say oh that

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was from a star passing in between us

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and this other star and planets have

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been discovered this way but they can

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only be detected move once they happen

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to pass in front of us are and that's it

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that's your shot but what they do is

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lots of them and then look for that

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telltale little in light level rise and

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fall of life that's what that telescope

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was for that from a ditch the macho

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project massive compact halo objects

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macho it was a response to wimps because

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we're looking for dark matter we know

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there's this matter out there that's not

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glowing it's not like a star it's

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something dark we don't know what it is

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and there was this idea that it might be

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these exotic subatomic particles that

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were that are massive there are even

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more massive than protons but they don't

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interact very well with each other with

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normal matter so they're weakly

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interacting but they're massive

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particles so Wyn p wimps Oh some sorry

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one has nothing but leave a mess in the

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crate so that the in did these other

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folks and there's always competing teams

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NuGet no we think it's the caramel

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we think it's it's dark planets so the

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this other project to look for compact

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objects which would be planets way out

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in the galaxy's halo sort of well out

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way outside the galaxy those would be

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compact halo objects but they're massive

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because their planets machos massive

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compact halo objects so was the whips

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versus the machos and in the end we

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don't know I don't think I think what

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happened was you would expect to see a

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certain number of these dark planets way

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amount of dark matter we see and so

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statistically you could say if we stared

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enough stars long enough we should see

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enough gravitational lensing enough of a

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little brightening of these two

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stars to get an idea of how many there

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are out there it turns out not nearly

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enough mm-hmm so we're pretty sure that

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like rogue planets and dark stars and

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things like that are not dark matter it

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must be some exotic form of matter you

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eliminate everything off the you know

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you make a big list black holes dark

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plans and everything's been scratched

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off so all that's left is like really

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weird stuff Axion's and the file you can

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understand it but that's why that's why

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they've got the Large Hadron Collider so

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that a they can determine what dark

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matter is and then be destroy the earth

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so we don't actually that's nice yeah

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yeah in the one moment yes yes this is a

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seriously it's like nine billion names

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of God as soon as you understand what

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the universe is all about it it goes

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away yes so how enjoy how is that like

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Sega into unraveled Akhmeta for us fill

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um well it's going to invert them the

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that can make anything up a lot you

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probably um well you know what was about

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these metro real it did you just make

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that up no no that actually that

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actually was alright some of the stuff

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you can actually look up if there were

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some sort of compendium of knowledge

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somewhere that was connected

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electronically in some manner that mean

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people now good running to this lame dig

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street to look up dro bleeeeegh yeah

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right yeah I think they'll only find it

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on my blog it may be something you re

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Richard that you used it a couple of em

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um the LHC has a detector and I don't

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you know you caught me off guard I'd

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have to look it up but i was there i

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went there a couple of years ago and it

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was awesome it was everything you'd

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expect oh you know gazillion dollar huge

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scientific project to be it was so much

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fun and they have a detector that it's

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looking for these particles of Dark

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Matters they pass through normal matter

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they can they can interact in a certain

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way yep you have to give zillions of

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these things doing it and then you see

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one little flash or whatever but that

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gives you numbers if you see five

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flashes a year you can extrapolate to

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how many there these particles there

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must be out there I'm not sure other

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than you know more than that what

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they're doing there's a lot of ways of

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trying to detect these I know they've

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got to

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actors buried underground and except in

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space and all this kind of stuff and we

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still don't know we still don't know

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what dark matter is yeah which is cool

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once we know order food call it

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something else not so dark matter well

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it's still dark and unless it's not

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matter but it's hard to imagine what

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else it would be we know it's not energy

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and we know it has gravity so it's got

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to be something that's made of matter

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and there are in the in the Model of

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particle physics that we have now you

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know it's not just a like a zoo of

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particles it's not like a list where

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you've got protons electrons neutrons

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they actually there it's like the

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periodic table of elements everything is

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in its place we know that there are

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massive particles that do certain things

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and intermediate-mass particles that do

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other things and there are these blank

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spots that we think there should be some

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of these particles in it like the Higgs

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boson which is what the Large Hadron

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Collider is looking for not posting

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right yeah it's a it's a silly name it I

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mean that's the particle that supposedly

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gives every other particle mass so it's

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like a sticky sticky field that you're

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walking through and it makes you slow

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down its what gives you an Ursa that's

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what they're looking for but they're

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that's that's why they're doing this it

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looks like there are particles that

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should be there that we don't know about

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yet because of the way we think the

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universe works and some of these might

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be dark matter unless that's why they're

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looking for so it is up and running

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again at the moment isn't it filmed and

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but last I heard yeah they were sounding

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there at full power I've heard much news

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actually I think of it I really thought

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about in the past couple of months I get

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all my news from Brian Cox it was the UH

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a physicist in England and his wife gia

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and they're both terrific and he's off

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filming his wonders of the universe show

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which is unbelievably good i don't know

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if you guys have seen this haven't seen

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it holy cow is that a good show gorgeous

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and brains amazing oh yeah we just got

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just gotta know obey again our body

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experience such a music that's what they

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said you know it's like Gia his wife's

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but probably just got an OBE I thought

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really

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I was in a mountaintop someplace being

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oxygen deprived and then I looked it up

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and it's like the order of the Jordan

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British Empire Empire yeah yeah you guys

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must love hearing that to write me very

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simply yeah we don't have those awards

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anymore the odd way no no no but the

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queen salon your money will she's still

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the head of state yeah yeah yeah we have

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an australian prime minister to us you

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probably know he's a woman yeah it's a

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key we stopping to say in front of

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minutes fiber we're sorry guy that fell

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but I thought you said he's a woman so

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she's English yeah he's a woman it isn't

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him as a woman and she's something one

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of us oh yeah yeah she had have a

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skeptic she uh she went on media lately

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that they said do you believe in God she

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says no oh really yeah and she said well

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you know other people do but no i don't

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okay okay she's matter boy that would

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have retired and feather in America she

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would you be out yeah yeah and it

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doesn't necessarily mean she's a skeptic

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lot of atheists are skeptics necessarily

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but not necessary in a country where the

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Prime Minister can say you know I don't

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believe in God Japan it's amazing and it

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would be nice if if you know religion

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isn't nearly the problem and and i don't

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mean religion is a problem per se but

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the religious incursions into law making

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in the classrooms here in America is

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real problem yeah it's not so bad no you

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have creationists there I'm sure they're

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trying to get into schools this time and

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say all right but it's not then haven't

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infiltrated the way that they have well

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you don't have taxes so that's right

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every time really we've got Queensland

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yeah but we've just had recently class

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is called ethics classes which are

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probably going to be introduced into

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schools so for kids have actually have

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religious education you can opt out of

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that but previously if you opted out it

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sit in the corner and look at the wall

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ok school system still has her in a week

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which is what I knew a scripture or

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religious education where all right open

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the Muslims go to this room and the job

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is witnesses in there and why don't you

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go there and a representative will come

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and that is

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completely amazing to me yeah that's

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that's funny because that would never

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fly yeah yeah there would be a hue and

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cry especially that whole Muslim thing

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you brought up there and that wouldn't

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work so well did you really have that we

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didn't they didn't segregate the

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religion to a moment to school I went to

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Catholics well that's why that might be

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a clue for hair know when it was when I

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went to school um yes we had scripture

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and the guy who used to come to take my

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scripture castles my dad because he was

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the local nuts right but lately I went

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to pick up oh I visited my nephew school

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who's a 8 or something and i was there

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when the bell rang and they said right

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the muslims have to go to 6b room and

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the christian really yeah yeah you know

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sydney's got a lot of different yeah but

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i didn't realize this but it doesn't

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seem like it's the problem there as it

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is here no you know if your Prime

431
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Minister is a skeptic now she was

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elected right there was something well

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the guy left he quit no no what happened

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it's with the Australian part of me I'm

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an American i really enjoy guys live on

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Mars as far as working since Julia we

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don't vote for the Prime Minister we

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vote for the party right and the party

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decide who's going to lead them right

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and the week or two ago the party

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decided that this guy was not looking

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too good anymore so basically they voted

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him out or they said you haven't got our

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support anymore what are you doing

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Australia to get voted out oh its

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popularity because we did okay cuz we

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think of you guys's you know you're all

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Crocodile Dundee yeah and he didn't kill

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enough alligators this week I got it you

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know it looked like that that party the

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Labour Party would could possibly lose

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the next election omf Elena mizulina son

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of course yeah so he's gone she said and

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she's so you guys need to find out what

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she's all about because if she's a

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skeptic and she can put pressure on the

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pharmacy's down there because that of

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all the things I saw in Australia you

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know the mind-body wallet stuff that you

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guys do that's all I live in Boulder

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Colorado no Richards been there and it's

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very New Age touchy feely Richards

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wearing is it what you would call braces

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and Mork braces we call them suspenders

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in in there

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a completely different thing and this is

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what oh here we go I do I want to know

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what that is you know it's nice talking

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so like garter belt there's garters

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really calling me yeah okay yeah Oh a

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Linda Brown and I had long discussions

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about that in the car driving across

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weird week I went to dubbo we drove

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through a plague of locusts were you

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there for that oh my God we're driving

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and so you know I'm squinting looking

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out the windshield and her little red

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miata and it's like what what is what's

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that up there at fuzzy and then you know

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whack well oh something just hit the way

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oh and there are billions grasshoppers

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flying it it was just I've never seen

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anything like it i think i think that

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was part of the the Stromlo fires that

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the whole ecosystem was totally upset

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and so the birds weren't eating enough

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of the insects but that was unbelievable

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and in her we drove through so many that

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her car we're driving her car overheated

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and she brand-new she's swearing to love

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Australian women should we pull over and

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we land it's like she she flipped pooped

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let's open the boot the bonnet fun at

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the the draw bleah and and she's looking

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the engineering and at the hood is the

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hood the hoods the front okay that's

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what we call it as well we call it the

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bullet the bonnets of time isn't it no

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the bonnet is the fabulous didn't okay

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ten minutes well yeah there were so many

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of them made they had basically blocked

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her front grille which was the air

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intake for the radiators or engine

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overheated but dissolve australia's

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craze to cut off your amazingly

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interesting story yes the pharmacies yes

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and the missile net that was the most

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shocking thing we went to the farms you

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showed me this the first day and with

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this visual right all of from you of

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home EO pathak company-sponsored drugs

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and I that was shocking to me what a

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conflict of interest which is I guess

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the same here the big big farm as they

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call it gets their pills and the

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pharmacies here as well but those are

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medicine to see it to see you know five

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hundred dollar bottles of water or

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whatever they cost on the wall so I'd

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love to see

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that get get diluted out of existence

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the way clear we're gonna we've been

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given the wind up here by the good

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people at the James Randi Educational

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Foundation but Phil did we talk about

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anything substantial our webcast just

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wasn't fun Minty's grasshoppers entire

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yeah I think we have everything so

529
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you've been very busy lately because

530
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you're working on your stupid secret

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project yeah when are we going to find

532
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out feel because everyone wants to know

533
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I'm hoping to have news in the next

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month so maybe it's early July now maybe

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by the end of July I don't know I've

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talked to my executive producer on the

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network side so i can say i'm working on

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a TV project with a major network that's

539
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all i've been able to say now for a year

540
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and I've been told that we may be able

541
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to start an advertising campaign soon

542
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but I don't know I have waited women if

543
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you weren't just figuring this out up

544
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now so I'm sure by mid-august I'll have

545
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something but I'm hoping to be able to

546
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say something about it because it's

547
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making me nuts yeah because I've done

548
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some pretty cool stuff that if I told

549
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you yeah pretty cool stuff but I can't

550
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say anything about it now this is one to

551
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write to you to beg and plead for more

552
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information where can they find you bad

553
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astronomy com if you go there it'll

554
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redirect immediately to my blog which is

555
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on discover magazine if you go to

556
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discover bank so you search on my name

557
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you know I've been doing it since 93

558
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it's not hard to find me people say I

559
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couldn't find your email address really

560
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I did I've had basically that bad bad

561
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asteroid bad astronomy calm since 1998

562
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so after 12 years it's not hard to find

563
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my my email address so you've been

564
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blogging your underpants for 12 years

565
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filled that's pretty impressive um no I

566
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usually don't wear now i've been i've

567
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been blogging now for about five years

568
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but I've had I've had actually a website

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under different name since 93 when we

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used mosaic and had hypertext and inline

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images

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it's funny when you mention inline

573
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images now in people my age go yeah

574
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nobody calls and then what did that

575
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happen we just called them images now

576
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hypertext hyperlinks select hyperlinks

577
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yeah alright well thanks very much for

578
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:00,380
taking some time out of your busy

579
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schedule attend oh thank you this is

580
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always great i love you guys ah we love

581
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you too so listen to skeptics am

582
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terrible accent it's troubling every

583
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time I talk Australia my voice goes I'm

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half an octave and I'm terrible at it

585
00:23:18,460 --> 00:23:16,520
sounds corny should however yes however

586
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my but my Australian is better than your

587
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American cuz you always wind up talking

588
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like this Brian Dunning's Australian

589
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:26,840
accent it's probably the worst you gotta

590
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get Adam Savage talk to him this isn't

591
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bad we'll do that okay thanks for thanks

592
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hail thank you this is an EVP I recorded

593
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last night how you doing I'm a ghost

594
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what's up you guys can't possibly ignore

595
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that type of it who are you are you

596
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doing my EVPs of the result of

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pareidolia I'm cross modulation combined

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with the listeners hopes and

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expectations this have to do with

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science you just gotta skip to be poon

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skeptically pound calm we're all scream

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they picked in the next join us now for

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Oh is gonna be fun if you really knows

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what's going on being a microphone just

605
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be really happy it would be exactly the

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conversation that goes on folks before

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we recruit a thing pilots on yeah this

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may not is showing his pictures of him

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wearing a rubber shirt a good evening

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and welcome to think tank cheers

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everybody thank you and tonight joining

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me in our wonderful club here just down

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the end of the street it's dr. H i hi

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dr. ho Chi hi dr. Richard hi we've also

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00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:09,010
delighted to welcome part-time think

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tank regular a certain a drunken madman

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James of events get everyone Joanne

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Jason thank you good even written I got

619
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that wrong the other night too I called

620
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somebody um coach justin james and

621
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:26,200
anyway it was a little time to call me

622
00:25:33,299 --> 00:25:31,090
James Brown Oh what no distinctive we

623
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also have someone whose name I can't

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confuse its further hello say hello in

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Norwegian hollow hey thank you very much

626
00:25:43,890 --> 00:25:42,040
different is it right now it's not very

627
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different and our special guest Maynard

628
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hi are the only thing I know about

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00:25:49,530 --> 00:25:47,590
Norway's it has a great country and

630
00:25:51,540 --> 00:25:49,540
western guy called Sputnik is that

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correct that's correct yeah and but he's

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not really great he's considerate of a

633
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joke is that right out of the reasons of

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national pride i can't comment on that

635
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okay because i got a pair of the the

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country and western it's a country style

637
00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:03,790
Norwegian artist called Sputnik and I

638
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:05,230
was once given the carib Sputnik

639
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Underpants so I'm very proud about that

640
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:09,850
like budgie smugglers a bit like that

641
00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:11,170
but I've derail the show already I just

642
00:26:14,610 --> 00:26:12,190
want people to know I left at the only

643
00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:14,620
11 well and I'm not that bright in fact

644
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:16,390
it could refer to me as a para skeptic

645
00:26:20,430 --> 00:26:18,010
so it's tonight's theme all about

646
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:20,440
Maynard's foundation garments then dr. H

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E what a week it's been hasn't it been a

648
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:26,820
week couldn't have been a week here

649
00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:29,170
someone commented on Twitter today that

650
00:26:35,340 --> 00:26:32,470
2010 might be seen as the year of writ

651
00:26:35,710 --> 00:26:35,350
of Reason coming back to society search

652
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:35,720
will

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00:26:41,260 --> 00:26:38,570
was the year reason fight back that's

654
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:41,270
right and it was hey twincest and his

655
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day for everything and he was taking it

656
00:26:46,299 --> 00:26:44,210
from someone else that I've forgotten

657
00:26:47,980 --> 00:26:46,309
who he took it from but yeah cuz I was

658
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wait wait as though somebody unquote

659
00:26:54,159 --> 00:26:50,179
yeah cuz there's some been some very

660
00:26:57,220 --> 00:26:54,169
good wins for us in the last twelve six

661
00:26:58,750 --> 00:26:57,230
months you know across the skeptical

662
00:26:59,860 --> 00:26:58,760
community actually including you know

663
00:27:04,510 --> 00:26:59,870
with homeopathy and with the

664
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:04,520
anti-vaxxers and Logan libel reform in

665
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:07,520
the UK it also looks like the internet

666
00:27:10,690 --> 00:27:09,289
filter that was supposed to happen in

667
00:27:13,450 --> 00:27:10,700
Australia might not be happening is

668
00:27:15,490 --> 00:27:13,460
faltering isn't it yea which was going

669
00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:15,500
to be just annoying because the Labour

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00:27:21,490 --> 00:27:17,750
Party is still pushing it are they yeah

671
00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:21,500
okay yeah to do with it coalitions

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00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:23,030
apparently not going to vote for it

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00:27:27,159 --> 00:27:24,169
they're gonna end up and on the head

674
00:27:29,020 --> 00:27:27,169
yeah yeah now the funda Jellicle wing of

675
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:29,030
the Labour Party is still all over it

676
00:27:33,130 --> 00:27:30,770
and you know they've got their links to

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00:27:35,289 --> 00:27:33,140
evangelical Christian groups that really

678
00:27:37,299 --> 00:27:35,299
really want it in but it looks like

679
00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:37,309
strangely Tony Abbott the mad monk has

680
00:27:43,539 --> 00:27:41,030
dropped it he knows the vote we know

681
00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:43,549
when he sees one I think now I think the

682
00:27:48,370 --> 00:27:45,470
reason Richard that this tweet appeared

683
00:27:52,210 --> 00:27:48,380
today was it was then linked to a story

684
00:27:54,730 --> 00:27:52,220
that appeared in the BBC news today and

685
00:27:57,220 --> 00:27:54,740
it was about the psychic by the name of

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00:27:59,140 --> 00:27:57,230
Joe power now our listeners might

687
00:28:02,440 --> 00:27:59,150
remember him because he was the subject

688
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:02,450
of a Derren Brown investigates show

689
00:28:06,850 --> 00:28:05,330
recently where Darren went up to meet

690
00:28:09,490 --> 00:28:06,860
him and spend some time with him and

691
00:28:13,899 --> 00:28:09,500
pretty much exposed him for being a bit

692
00:28:15,340 --> 00:28:13,909
of a fraud and of course you know what

693
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:15,350
it's like in cycling so it doesn't

694
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:16,610
matter how hard you hit them they keep

695
00:28:20,020 --> 00:28:18,080
bouncing back and people still believe

696
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:20,030
them anyway unsinkable rubber ducks

697
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:23,120
that's right yeah so at the moment the

698
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:25,850
Embera comedy festival is on and he was

699
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:28,610
booked at the end brief rindge to do a

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five-minute segment at sort of the

701
00:28:33,850 --> 00:28:32,000
comedy gala so we're all the top

702
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:33,860
comedians or guests come on they get

703
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:37,010
five minutes each it turns out that he

704
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:41,570
actually got booed off stage by the the

705
00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:43,010
spirits of the Dead which was really

706
00:28:47,690 --> 00:28:44,870
weird but then

707
00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:47,700
he was booed and heckled during the

708
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:56,460
garlic don't go say foo is murder oh so

709
00:29:02,450 --> 00:28:59,760
I'm the the director of the festival

710
00:29:04,790 --> 00:29:02,460
William Byrd at quartz or Koontz is his

711
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:04,800
name he was quoted as saying we made a

712
00:29:08,530 --> 00:29:06,930
mistake putting him on in that context

713
00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:08,540
it was incredibly difficult for him

714
00:29:12,890 --> 00:29:10,980
while it was uncomfortable to watch on a

715
00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:12,900
positive note he has certainly gained a

716
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:16,460
lot of attention from it I'm sure he has

717
00:29:21,650 --> 00:29:19,890
so Joe at Joe power actually made a

718
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:21,660
couple of statements about the incident

719
00:29:26,540 --> 00:29:24,090
as well and he referred to the Daron

720
00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:26,550
Brown program and he said that um now

721
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:27,750
this sounds like something we've had

722
00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:30,240
before Jason he said since that program

723
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:32,280
i have had threats and had to move home

724
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:34,260
it sounds very familiar in fact we know

725
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:36,210
someone who Joe power claimed to be

726
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:38,610
threatened by I think Michael Marsh of

727
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:42,930
the Mossad skeptics and I marsh yep even

728
00:29:48,170 --> 00:29:45,690
wash how you do yeah yeah he got call

729
00:29:50,090 --> 00:29:48,180
from a policeman he describes this on I

730
00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:50,100
think the last skeptics with a cake got

731
00:29:55,790 --> 00:29:51,750
a call from a policeman going did you

732
00:29:58,700 --> 00:29:55,800
threaten this guy no okay then fair

733
00:30:01,040 --> 00:29:58,710
enough that's a great episode listening

734
00:30:02,930 --> 00:30:01,050
I love the skeptics with a que podcast

735
00:30:06,860 --> 00:30:02,940
and in fact it's really good information

736
00:30:08,780 --> 00:30:06,870
I love their musical theme you know it's

737
00:30:12,140 --> 00:30:08,790
like the Beatles stinky deleted it

738
00:30:13,820 --> 00:30:12,150
incredible yeah yeah it's great the

739
00:30:15,650 --> 00:30:13,830
column should remember here too is this

740
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:15,660
happened in Edinburgh and as anyone

741
00:30:19,130 --> 00:30:17,130
who's been to Edinburgh particularly the

742
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:19,140
extent of comics listening the Edinburgh

743
00:30:22,790 --> 00:30:20,850
audience and Scottish audiences can be

744
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,800
very tough and particularly if they're

745
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,720
expecting comedy and this guy comes out

746
00:30:27,980 --> 00:30:26,880
and is doing serious psychic thing like

747
00:30:32,090 --> 00:30:27,990
when I was there with the castanet club

748
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:32,100
in 1984 it was and we were a band so we

749
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:33,600
could play music and power through any

750
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:35,520
any problems they had if you a guy up

751
00:30:39,170 --> 00:30:37,470
there doing a psychic reading seriously

752
00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:39,180
and you've only got five minutes I I

753
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:40,710
think it was a really poor choice to put

754
00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:42,330
him on even if you've been a real one it

755
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:44,820
just wouldn't work I'm surprised he

756
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:46,809
didn't see it coming

757
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:52,690
oh boy I'm to let him down yes I know

758
00:30:56,669 --> 00:30:54,730
what his spirit guy should have told him

759
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:56,679
but Joe actually had something to say

760
00:31:00,090 --> 00:30:58,450
about it and he said I was expecting the

761
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:00,100
skeptics at the assembly launch night

762
00:31:03,779 --> 00:31:01,870
but I didn't think it would be as bad as

763
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:03,789
it was because anything people do should

764
00:31:11,489 --> 00:31:07,450
be respected he said he frankly I don't

765
00:31:13,769 --> 00:31:11,499
respect that say hello mama yeah how's

766
00:31:15,749 --> 00:31:13,779
everybody going great that nice dinner

767
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:15,759
tonight thank you thanks what I says no

768
00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:17,919
once again a core two girls in the

769
00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:20,950
bathroom they look after us here thanks

770
00:31:28,859 --> 00:31:26,590
Marshall guest not else is it that there

771
00:31:30,659 --> 00:31:28,869
is a like a quarter of a nice chocolate

772
00:31:32,399 --> 00:31:30,669
cake sitting on the table over there we

773
00:31:35,220 --> 00:31:32,409
should have a service looks like it we

774
00:31:36,779 --> 00:31:35,230
should have grabbed it anyway anyway he

775
00:31:39,090 --> 00:31:36,789
says he went home that night and told my

776
00:31:40,499 --> 00:31:39,100
wife had had gone badly it was good to

777
00:31:42,029 --> 00:31:40,509
have criticism but that kind of bad

778
00:31:44,369 --> 00:31:42,039
behaviour should not happen in a venue

779
00:31:45,810 --> 00:31:44,379
my mistake was that I didn't have the

780
00:31:48,810 --> 00:31:45,820
lights on so I couldn't see the

781
00:31:51,330 --> 00:31:48,820
recipient in the audience that means the

782
00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:51,340
person he was trying to connect with my

783
00:31:57,090 --> 00:31:54,879
name's dating me this is I need response

784
00:31:59,009 --> 00:31:57,100
and dialogue to keep the energy to keep

785
00:32:01,710 --> 00:31:59,019
the gold reading room yeah the cold

786
00:32:02,999 --> 00:32:01,720
waiting so I'm Adam Hills who many of us

787
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:03,009
here would know he's an australian

788
00:32:06,989 --> 00:32:04,809
comedian he's the host of speaks and

789
00:32:10,649 --> 00:32:06,999
specs he was actually following Joe

790
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:10,659
power on stage in the next slot and he

791
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:13,809
he said he was compared was calm sorry

792
00:32:18,269 --> 00:32:16,210
he was comparing the event and he said

793
00:32:19,889 --> 00:32:18,279
I've cleared up after lots of comedians

794
00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:19,899
who have died on stage but never someone

795
00:32:27,090 --> 00:32:24,340
who was talking to the dead so for Joe

796
00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:27,100
and what a week it's been in skepticism

797
00:32:33,389 --> 00:32:28,950
dr. hu with those people from the

798
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:33,399
Australian anti-vaccination network yes

799
00:32:37,649 --> 00:32:35,590
they've been slapped again Richard and

800
00:32:39,419 --> 00:32:37,659
in the previous podcasts we've talked

801
00:32:41,789 --> 00:32:39,429
about how they were investigated by the

802
00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:41,799
healthcare Complaints Commission and

803
00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:44,230
those findings were pretty damning they

804
00:32:47,999 --> 00:32:45,820
were told that they had to post a

805
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:48,009
disclaimer on their website saying that

806
00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:50,769
their their information was purely

807
00:32:55,170 --> 00:32:53,080
anti-vaccination that it was misleading

808
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:55,180
and that

809
00:32:59,370 --> 00:32:57,130
people who visited the website should

810
00:33:01,530 --> 00:32:59,380
seek advice from a medical doctor not

811
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:01,540
from Merrill Dori who doesn't have any

812
00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:03,730
qualifications at all apart from a brain

813
00:33:09,570 --> 00:33:07,630
apart from a brain and she's a mom now

814
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:09,580
there was also another investigation

815
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:12,430
that has was ongoing from the office of

816
00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:14,080
liquor gaming and racing now this is the

817
00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:16,350
charity watchdog a new south wales

818
00:33:20,430 --> 00:33:18,670
basically they were looking into some a

819
00:33:22,530 --> 00:33:20,440
complaint that was made by someone that

820
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:22,540
we know about some of the activities the

821
00:33:27,050 --> 00:33:24,850
avian had been up to one of those things

822
00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:27,060
was that there was a period of two years

823
00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:30,100
where they didn't have a charity license

824
00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:31,980
but they were still soliciting funds

825
00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:34,420
some of the other accusations were that

826
00:33:38,910 --> 00:33:37,150
they had collected funds for certain

827
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:38,920
causes and then spent them on something

828
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:41,170
else not spent them on the thing they've

829
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:44,050
raised the money for so basically the

830
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:46,960
OLG are passed down their findings they

831
00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:48,370
were actually waiting for the H Triple C

832
00:33:53,310 --> 00:33:50,560
to come down with their findings before

833
00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:53,320
they made a decision that happened on

834
00:33:58,290 --> 00:33:55,390
Tuesday in Australia and that was

835
00:34:00,240 --> 00:33:58,300
announced on late line which another

836
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:00,250
story was done about that so Jason's got

837
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:02,410
the details of the actual findings from

838
00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:05,050
the OLG are I do now the oil gia I

839
00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:06,550
haven't put it out publicly but we've

840
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:07,990
got press releases that have gone to

841
00:34:12,570 --> 00:34:10,240
media outlets and they read as follows

842
00:34:13,950 --> 00:34:12,580
the OLG are says the audit detected a

843
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,960
number of breaches of charitable fund

844
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,280
raise and legislations including

845
00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:17,200
fundraising without an authority and

846
00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:19,000
authorised expenditure and failure to

847
00:34:23,310 --> 00:34:20,230
keep proper records of income and

848
00:34:24,930 --> 00:34:23,320
expenditure further to this the agency

849
00:34:27,810 --> 00:34:24,940
also identified possible breaches of the

850
00:34:29,010 --> 00:34:27,820
charitable trusts act 1993 which are to

851
00:34:31,050 --> 00:34:29,020
be referred to the Department of Justice

852
00:34:33,930 --> 00:34:31,060
in the Attorney General so these aren't

853
00:34:35,550 --> 00:34:33,940
trivial charges this is actual a

854
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:35,560
criminal matter given that it's

855
00:34:40,050 --> 00:34:38,110
breaching the charitable trust act so

856
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:40,060
this is big this is big isn't it writing

857
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:42,730
yeah i mean i think the maximum penalty

858
00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:45,010
for this sort of thing is five years in

859
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:47,590
jail actually that's why i had not yeah

860
00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:51,280
so I mean the best case scenario here

861
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:52,990
for the ABN is probably that they might

862
00:34:58,770 --> 00:34:57,520
get their charity license revoked now

863
00:35:00,960 --> 00:34:58,780
I'm not quite sure how that's going to

864
00:35:02,910 --> 00:35:00,970
impact on the organization except that

865
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:02,920
it means they can't raise any more money

866
00:35:05,140 --> 00:35:04,780
which means that they won't be able to

867
00:35:06,670 --> 00:35:05,150
find

868
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:06,680
which means that they might have to

869
00:35:12,370 --> 00:35:08,690
close down means Meryl will have to

870
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:12,380
auction the giant imac on her desk what

871
00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:14,089
I'll do now is I'll just play the audio

872
00:35:21,099 --> 00:35:16,760
from the other night on Late line which

873
00:35:22,839 --> 00:35:21,109
is the ABC television's late current

874
00:35:25,299 --> 00:35:22,849
affairs show sort of isn't it it's a

875
00:35:32,279 --> 00:35:25,309
more serious a current affair show so

876
00:35:37,150 --> 00:35:34,960
prominent anti-vaccination group has

877
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:37,160
been given 28 days to explain why it

878
00:35:41,319 --> 00:35:38,930
should be allowed to continue raising

879
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:41,329
funds as a charity the Australian

880
00:35:44,170 --> 00:35:42,890
vaccination network is being

881
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:44,180
investigated by the New South Wales

882
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:46,880
office of liquor gaming and racing for

883
00:35:53,260 --> 00:35:49,010
potential breaches of charity

884
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,270
fundraising laws Jon Stewart reports the

885
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:55,520
Australian vaccination network is run by

886
00:36:01,120 --> 00:35:57,770
Merrill Durie from a home office on the

887
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:01,130
north coast of New South Wales the avn

888
00:36:06,190 --> 00:36:03,920
provides anti-vaccination information

889
00:36:09,309 --> 00:36:06,200
through their website their magazine and

890
00:36:11,859 --> 00:36:09,319
seminars last month the healthcare

891
00:36:14,170 --> 00:36:11,869
Complaints Commission accused the avn of

892
00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:14,180
providing inaccurate and misleading

893
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:17,270
information about vaccines to parents

894
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:19,849
but the criticism was dismissed by the

895
00:36:25,180 --> 00:36:22,730
group this was not an independent

896
00:36:27,609 --> 00:36:25,190
investigation this was an investigation

897
00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:27,619
by an organization that set out to

898
00:36:33,549 --> 00:36:29,720
support government policy which is pro

899
00:36:36,010 --> 00:36:33,559
vaccination now the IV n is under fire

900
00:36:38,859 --> 00:36:36,020
again this time from the New South Wales

901
00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:38,869
office of liquor gaming and racing which

902
00:36:42,819 --> 00:36:41,180
wants the anti-vaccination group to show

903
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:42,829
why it should be able to continue

904
00:36:48,250 --> 00:36:45,920
raising funds as a charity the man who

905
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:48,260
started the complaint against the avn

906
00:36:54,309 --> 00:36:51,170
ken MacLeod was interviewed by Lateline

907
00:36:57,010 --> 00:36:54,319
earlier this year we thought that it was

908
00:36:58,599 --> 00:36:57,020
a travesty that the avn should hold a

909
00:37:01,240 --> 00:36:58,609
charity license they are not performing

910
00:37:05,049 --> 00:37:01,250
charitable activities quite the opposite

911
00:37:07,890 --> 00:37:05,059
in his complaint ken MacLeod accused the

912
00:37:11,049 --> 00:37:07,900
anti-vaccination group of misusing funds

913
00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:11,059
he claimed that the avn had been raising

914
00:37:16,359 --> 00:37:12,940
funds to place anti-vaccination

915
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:16,369
pamphlets in bounty bags which are given

916
00:37:21,580 --> 00:37:19,130
to mothers of newborns but he said that

917
00:37:24,490 --> 00:37:21,590
company which made the bounty bags had

918
00:37:28,110 --> 00:37:24,500
nothing to do with the avian it's very

919
00:37:32,020 --> 00:37:28,120
clear that for example money raised for

920
00:37:33,970 --> 00:37:32,030
the bounty bags could never be spent on

921
00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:33,980
the bounty bags the bounty bags company

922
00:37:38,650 --> 00:37:35,630
didn't want to have a bar of the avian

923
00:37:40,540 --> 00:37:38,660
but the money was raised where did it go

924
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:40,550
well it was obviously spent on running

925
00:37:45,970 --> 00:37:43,130
the avian today the New South Wales

926
00:37:48,580 --> 00:37:45,980
office of liquor gaming and racing said

927
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:48,590
their audit of the avian had detected a

928
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:50,450
number of breaches of charity

929
00:37:56,500 --> 00:37:53,810
fundraising laws including fundraising

930
00:37:59,620 --> 00:37:56,510
without an authority unauthorized

931
00:38:02,070 --> 00:37:59,630
expenditure and failure to keep proper

932
00:38:04,270 --> 00:38:02,080
records of income and expenditure

933
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:04,280
merrell Durie could not be contacted

934
00:38:09,550 --> 00:38:07,130
tonight but last month she made the

935
00:38:11,860 --> 00:38:09,560
following statement the office of liquor

936
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:11,870
gaming and racing has been investigating

937
00:38:17,290 --> 00:38:15,050
the avians fundraising we will wait

938
00:38:20,020 --> 00:38:17,300
until they've made their final judgment

939
00:38:22,810 --> 00:38:20,030
before I make any comment on this the

940
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:22,820
office of liquor gaming and racing said

941
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:25,310
it had also identified possible breaches

942
00:38:29,290 --> 00:38:27,770
of the charitable trust act which will

943
00:38:32,830 --> 00:38:29,300
be referred to the Department of Justice

944
00:38:35,710 --> 00:38:32,840
and the Attorney General the avian has

945
00:38:38,860 --> 00:38:35,720
been given 28 days to respond to the

946
00:38:41,350 --> 00:38:38,870
investigation Jon Stewart lateline a

947
00:38:43,930 --> 00:38:41,360
quick look at weather so there you go

948
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:43,940
that was the the audio from the story

949
00:38:49,330 --> 00:38:47,690
now listeners can see that story the

950
00:38:52,090 --> 00:38:49,340
video of that story if they just Google

951
00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:52,100
Lateline ABC TV and go to their archive

952
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:54,740
section well that the situation now is

953
00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:56,570
Richard that she has three weeks to

954
00:39:01,630 --> 00:38:58,970
respond to these accusations from the

955
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:01,640
OLG are and she had basically she has to

956
00:39:06,130 --> 00:39:03,770
justify why she should continue

957
00:39:09,340 --> 00:39:06,140
functioning as a charity given that

958
00:39:11,110 --> 00:39:09,350
she's breached these laws now she wrote

959
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:11,120
the hilarious blog post about this

960
00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:14,320
didn't she Jase isn't brilliant what she

961
00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:17,150
explained to her members what had

962
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:18,950
happened in layman's terms so that they

963
00:39:24,940 --> 00:39:21,110
could understand it now do you remember

964
00:39:30,010 --> 00:39:27,520
good the money boss the song sighs and

965
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:30,020
money box told them he has the money

966
00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:32,089
boxes with the wrong size yes

967
00:39:35,770 --> 00:39:33,589
that'sthat's fundraising without an

968
00:39:37,630 --> 00:39:35,780
authority Merrill yes she also said that

969
00:39:39,339 --> 00:39:37,640
the docket books might not have been in

970
00:39:41,620 --> 00:39:39,349
the right order or something so did

971
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,630
nothing to worry about oh that was it it

972
00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:43,760
was just a few little tiny errors and I

973
00:39:46,750 --> 00:39:45,260
think when the Department of Justice and

974
00:39:49,329 --> 00:39:46,760
the attorney general's department is

975
00:39:51,940 --> 00:39:49,339
involved it's a bigger issue then you

976
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:51,950
had the wrong size cashbox Merrill the

977
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:53,359
Attorney General is very keen on the

978
00:40:00,190 --> 00:39:56,510
right size cashbox things that happen

979
00:40:02,260 --> 00:40:00,200
today as well to mend them the aeo of

980
00:40:03,730 --> 00:40:02,270
Australian skeptics he was I don't know

981
00:40:06,910 --> 00:40:03,740
what he was doing on the avian website

982
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:06,920
but in their shop they have a section

983
00:40:13,630 --> 00:40:10,190
where you can donate funds and they had

984
00:40:15,370 --> 00:40:13,640
say ten dollars donation $26 donation

985
00:40:18,730 --> 00:40:15,380
hundred dollars donation and then they

986
00:40:20,349 --> 00:40:18,740
had the cost of that donation so you

987
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:20,359
wouldn't you would think right if it's a

988
00:40:23,710 --> 00:40:21,650
ten dollar donation that have cost you

989
00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:23,720
ten dollars but apparently there's some

990
00:40:28,270 --> 00:40:26,060
special going at the moment and I hover

991
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:28,280
your sale they're having a sale on Jones

992
00:40:33,099 --> 00:40:30,710
I'll everything must go they're having a

993
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:33,109
sale on their donation so you can

994
00:40:39,819 --> 00:40:35,690
currently by the 26 dollar donation for

995
00:40:42,220 --> 00:40:39,829
ten dollars now we got a screenshot of

996
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:42,230
this and in the actual picture they have

997
00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:44,690
a someone with a donation box so we

998
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:47,390
thought maybe sighs well see that's what

999
00:40:51,130 --> 00:40:48,770
we thought maybe the twenty-six dollars

1000
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:51,140
is too big to fit in that size of a box

1001
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:52,490
so you only have to give them ten

1002
00:40:57,099 --> 00:40:55,280
dollars I don't know but if you if you

1003
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:57,109
want to see this is that image and some

1004
00:41:00,490 --> 00:40:58,970
other hilarious things go to stop the

1005
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:00,500
Australian vaccination that work on

1006
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:02,050
facebook

1007
00:41:09,730 --> 00:41:07,730
Marilyn I was do you get a $26 tax

1008
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:09,740
deduction for your charitable donation

1009
00:41:13,329 --> 00:41:11,569
for the ten-dollar I suggest that you

1010
00:41:15,130 --> 00:41:13,339
give Meryl a call I'm sure she'd be

1011
00:41:17,740 --> 00:41:15,140
happy to talk to you at this time and

1012
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,750
ask her that question Frodo well she

1013
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:19,520
although I do believe if you're not a

1014
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:21,050
member of the avian now she has to

1015
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:23,119
charge you if you call her so you'll

1016
00:41:27,849 --> 00:41:25,760
have to pay for that phone call okay

1017
00:41:31,089 --> 00:41:27,859
yeah that's right yes it's only members

1018
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:31,099
get the 1-800 number yeah we better join

1019
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:32,960
up now sitting back listening intently

1020
00:41:38,260 --> 00:41:34,609
to all this interesting talk has been

1021
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:38,270
may not may not what's going through

1022
00:41:42,370 --> 00:41:40,250
your mind when you hear all this look um

1023
00:41:44,859 --> 00:41:42,380
I've only recently been following the

1024
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:44,869
whole Navy anything closely and not

1025
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:46,910
being a scientist being a perfect layman

1026
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:49,490
I I can understand why they're concerned

1027
00:41:53,859 --> 00:41:51,770
about vaccinations and I as one person

1028
00:41:55,690 --> 00:41:53,869
look as we all know i'm a big fan of the

1029
00:41:58,089 --> 00:41:55,700
no agenda show don't say to work and

1030
00:42:00,190 --> 00:41:58,099
adam curry and they raised many problems

1031
00:42:01,900 --> 00:42:00,200
with the swine flu vaccination i thought

1032
00:42:03,099 --> 00:42:01,910
okay well okay what is this samira saw

1033
00:42:04,839 --> 00:42:03,109
stuff it's a mercury can't be good

1034
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:04,849
looked it up went to few sources and

1035
00:42:07,540 --> 00:42:06,170
found that it's not a form that's

1036
00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:07,550
absorbed by the body is that correct

1037
00:42:13,569 --> 00:42:10,790
that's correct yes okay and I then went

1038
00:42:15,579 --> 00:42:13,579
I wanted to know what and well because

1039
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:15,589
it would add juice or something the

1040
00:42:18,970 --> 00:42:17,210
things that are added to the vaccine to

1041
00:42:20,530 --> 00:42:18,980
make them more powerful I then want to

1042
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:20,540
find out what that was and i discovered

1043
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:23,089
that they're not harmful either so we

1044
00:42:25,809 --> 00:42:24,410
just would have been looking around I

1045
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:25,819
found out that a lot of the claims are

1046
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:28,160
exactly true but i think it's just

1047
00:42:32,650 --> 00:42:30,319
people but the one I like is that maybe

1048
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:32,660
they're injecting chips into people's

1049
00:42:36,490 --> 00:42:34,730
bodies with these now this is actually

1050
00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:36,500
something a vm believes because I just

1051
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,329
heard I heard that mentioned that's a

1052
00:42:42,910 --> 00:42:40,880
girl on a barrel has blogged on that

1053
00:42:44,349 --> 00:42:42,920
subject in the past I know she took an

1054
00:42:46,450 --> 00:42:44,359
article directly from David Ickes

1055
00:42:48,940 --> 00:42:46,460
website some of you may know about David

1056
00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:48,950
Icke if you don't know just don't bother

1057
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:53,180
I seriously but it the article that she

1058
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:56,000
looking she she took the text of this

1059
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:57,410
article wholesale and blogged it on her

1060
00:43:00,460 --> 00:42:59,210
own page without attribution and we

1061
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,470
tracked down where it came from and it

1062
00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:02,720
was David Icke it's all about microchips

1063
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:04,550
in the vaccines and the Bilderberg Group

1064
00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:06,260
and thats is it so we're talking about

1065
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:09,260
alien alien so a she is it perhaps being

1066
00:43:12,580 --> 00:43:10,370
suggested that current

1067
00:43:14,350 --> 00:43:12,590
there's there's nano chips inside the

1068
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:14,360
vaccine Oh some people firmly believe

1069
00:43:19,630 --> 00:43:17,090
that oh yeah ya hurt small RFID chips

1070
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:19,640
now the chips do actually exist but you

1071
00:43:24,610 --> 00:43:21,410
need an antenna on them which is quite

1072
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:24,620
large they're completely useless without

1073
00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:26,210
the center wonder where the antenna

1074
00:43:33,130 --> 00:43:30,830
sticks up your ear obviously of course

1075
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:33,140
but basically I mean look it would be a

1076
00:43:36,340 --> 00:43:34,370
very effective way to track the

1077
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:36,350
population but there's a much more

1078
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:37,850
effective way which is to have stuff in

1079
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:40,370
people's mobile phones and I just showed

1080
00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:43,520
you all my computer earlier and and what

1081
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:44,960
have I done I've put a piece of black

1082
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:46,880
tape over the built-in camera yes

1083
00:43:51,690 --> 00:43:48,770
because I don't trust I know people want

1084
00:43:54,310 --> 00:43:51,700
to watch me getting dressed they do I

1085
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:54,320
know people want to see that so that's

1086
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:55,490
why I put a bit of tape over there

1087
00:44:00,930 --> 00:43:57,110
because can I ask a question why do you

1088
00:44:05,050 --> 00:44:03,520
well because some other but I've shot

1089
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:05,060
videos of other people getting dressed

1090
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:07,280
that I've got a fair laptop and I want

1091
00:44:10,570 --> 00:44:08,960
to see if I'm doing same way as M simple

1092
00:44:12,070 --> 00:44:10,580
left so interesting the one there was a

1093
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:12,080
case in the u.s. recently the popped up

1094
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:13,490
in the news of a school district you

1095
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:15,410
were giving out laptops to the students

1096
00:44:19,060 --> 00:44:16,640
that's right and then put surveillance

1097
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:19,070
software on the laptops so basically

1098
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:20,930
what they've got would be class this

1099
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:22,970
child pool in Australia yeah and and and

1100
00:44:26,890 --> 00:44:24,800
and also in America and they've got all

1101
00:44:29,050 --> 00:44:26,900
their students like the lab they can

1102
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:29,060
eavesdrop on their students at any time

1103
00:44:33,220 --> 00:44:31,520
and and this candlelight because one of

1104
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:33,230
them was doing something unusual i

1105
00:44:36,820 --> 00:44:35,090
reckon looking at your class students

1106
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:36,830
make it that's very unusual procedure

1107
00:44:40,330 --> 00:44:39,200
yeah i reckin one of the students was

1108
00:44:45,820 --> 00:44:40,340
doing his homework and that was

1109
00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:45,830
considered unusual but you have some

1110
00:44:48,610 --> 00:44:47,390
other interesting types of number of

1111
00:44:50,350 --> 00:44:48,620
things here and oh by the way that

1112
00:44:51,850 --> 00:44:50,360
podcast you mentioned that's the one you

1113
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:51,860
sent me a clip of that's right then the

1114
00:44:55,630 --> 00:44:53,570
no agenda show comp the great best

1115
00:44:57,100 --> 00:44:55,640
shuttle isn't due in the morning for the

1116
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:57,110
crackpot and the buzzkill luck I know

1117
00:45:00,220 --> 00:44:58,400
you guys are probably aren't on board

1118
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:00,230
before anyone listening is probably on

1119
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:01,730
board what they get up to but I like

1120
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:03,050
what they get up to me what I'll play a

1121
00:45:06,850 --> 00:45:04,370
little clip from this show right now

1122
00:45:08,410 --> 00:45:06,860
okay now this is them this is a doctor

1123
00:45:10,330 --> 00:45:08,420
Rachel interviewed me back in April this

1124
00:45:11,410 --> 00:45:10,340
is on there April show and this is them

1125
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:11,420
look because because I was a PR

1126
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:12,770
associate for that show because they

1127
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:15,050
give credits on that show and well here

1128
00:45:19,569 --> 00:45:16,130
they here they are talking about me and

1129
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:19,579
dr. Reggie okay Maynard

1130
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:21,410
checks back in again our friend from

1131
00:45:25,029 --> 00:45:23,089
Down Under never missing an opportunity

1132
00:45:29,289 --> 00:45:25,039
to get a plug in for your show whenever

1133
00:45:30,849 --> 00:45:29,299
I can I figured the Australian skeptics

1134
00:45:33,009 --> 00:45:30,859
would love your show so here I am on

1135
00:45:36,249 --> 00:45:33,019
this week's show episode 79 of the

1136
00:45:39,699 --> 00:45:36,259
skeptic zone at the same time I'm a huge

1137
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,709
fan of a show that simply describes it

1138
00:45:43,569 --> 00:45:41,839
leads it basically they go out and hit

1139
00:45:46,269 --> 00:45:43,579
people in the mouth metaphorically that

1140
00:45:48,759 --> 00:45:46,279
is been no agenda show with adam curry

1141
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:48,769
and john c devoy and what they do in the

1142
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:52,160
morning is basically postulate what-ifs

1143
00:45:55,690 --> 00:45:53,930
and they've got some really crackpot

1144
00:45:57,579 --> 00:45:55,700
ideas that I love listening to for

1145
00:46:00,249 --> 00:45:57,589
example the harp array is that part of

1146
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:00,259
an earthquake machine anybody wants that

1147
00:46:04,269 --> 00:46:02,569
not being the case but I like enjoying

1148
00:46:05,529 --> 00:46:04,279
entertaining the idea then my favorite

1149
00:46:07,989 --> 00:46:05,539
tech machine everyone political

1150
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:07,999
ramifications would they be if there

1151
00:46:14,019 --> 00:46:11,599
were I love the guy I expect that not to

1152
00:46:16,479 --> 00:46:14,029
be the case I like that it's like it

1153
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:16,489
sounds more British and US but i expect

1154
00:46:20,769 --> 00:46:18,650
that not to be the case however it

1155
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:20,779
entertains me I do like it very much

1156
00:46:27,009 --> 00:46:25,130
understated style put it on your resume

1157
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:27,019
will vouch for you and I'll get you

1158
00:46:34,030 --> 00:46:29,690
hookers and blow chicks and maybe a job

1159
00:46:39,070 --> 00:46:34,040
our formula is this we go out we're here

1160
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,370
get ready everybody

1161
00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:49,470
you

1162
00:46:53,410 --> 00:46:51,820
no that sounds like an interesting show

1163
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,420
may not well sir particularly as the

1164
00:46:57,970 --> 00:46:55,520
audience you know has says shut up slave

1165
00:47:01,000 --> 00:46:57,980
at the end of their at their jingle and

1166
00:47:02,890 --> 00:47:01,010
what who amongst us has not felt like a

1167
00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:02,900
wage slave driving to work on a rainy

1168
00:47:05,860 --> 00:47:04,430
monday morning or going to work when you

1169
00:47:06,970 --> 00:47:05,870
know it's going to be a hell day you

1170
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:06,980
know I think they're just getting into

1171
00:47:10,060 --> 00:47:08,510
something cuz at all times sometimes we

1172
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:10,070
feel like when do you feel like a slave

1173
00:47:15,820 --> 00:47:12,290
richer every time I come to the think

1174
00:47:17,410 --> 00:47:15,830
tank hey so I think they're definitely

1175
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:17,420
on to something the editing the show

1176
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:19,280
late into the night I do that would be

1177
00:47:21,610 --> 00:47:20,690
the one so you're not a big fan of shale

1178
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:21,620
and if you may give the guy's a

1179
00:47:24,460 --> 00:47:22,970
shout-out ever see them but I mean

1180
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,470
they've got great jingles and you're

1181
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:26,960
sometimes jingles is more important than

1182
00:47:29,620 --> 00:47:28,400
you know then going to university I

1183
00:47:30,940 --> 00:47:29,630
would say that for sure I haven't gotten

1184
00:47:32,350 --> 00:47:30,950
University I've got jingles house

1185
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:32,360
someone from the radio you would say

1186
00:47:36,910 --> 00:47:35,570
that sounds like some exotic disease or

1187
00:47:39,820 --> 00:47:36,920
into the doctor what's wrong I've got

1188
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:39,830
the deal don't worry i go to Valtrex a

1189
00:47:44,530 --> 00:47:42,770
day should fix that see i have got some

1190
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:44,540
medical knowledge i might not be a

1191
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:46,610
doctor but i can prescribe drugs what

1192
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:49,280
sort of dr. you dr. 'he i look I'm just

1193
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:52,310
a mom don't ask me look the other bit of

1194
00:47:54,730 --> 00:47:53,330
information I want to bring up which I

1195
00:47:56,140 --> 00:47:54,740
think other member of the think tank

1196
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:56,150
might know something about and again I

1197
00:47:59,950 --> 00:47:58,130
know nothing about quantum theory okay

1198
00:48:02,860 --> 00:47:59,960
so that puts me in the same category as

1199
00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:02,870
a lot of it I think they do they do

1200
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:04,910
they'd ok now but now what is about the

1201
00:48:09,070 --> 00:48:06,890
article in nature where the Heisenberg

1202
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:09,080
principle might have been over thrown

1203
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:10,490
because basically it's a principle that

1204
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:12,890
you can't know the all knowledge about

1205
00:48:17,230 --> 00:48:14,720
two particles in one place at the one

1206
00:48:20,530 --> 00:48:17,240
time and with entanglement quantum

1207
00:48:22,540 --> 00:48:20,540
computing apparently you can do this but

1208
00:48:23,980 --> 00:48:22,550
problem is that you may be able to fit

1209
00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:23,990
the memory of all information you need

1210
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:25,880
if you read where one particle is as

1211
00:48:29,530 --> 00:48:27,410
you're doing that your knowledge of the

1212
00:48:31,180 --> 00:48:29,540
other particle becomes upset it becomes

1213
00:48:32,590 --> 00:48:31,190
unser yes that's where does anyone

1214
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:32,600
around this table know what I'm talking

1215
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:35,450
about well I remember the the Heisenberg

1216
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:37,370
compensators on Star Trek for their

1217
00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:40,010
transporters and that's why folks Star

1218
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:41,630
Trek is better than Star Wars because

1219
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:43,850
they do a little bit of research you're

1220
00:48:47,350 --> 00:48:45,290
going to get the emails over this now

1221
00:48:49,180 --> 00:48:47,360
they have guys like david or kooter i

1222
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:49,190
think his name is who does a bit of

1223
00:48:51,790 --> 00:48:50,480
stuff on that and i just like to say

1224
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:51,800
that because you know i'm a star wars

1225
00:48:56,380 --> 00:48:53,450
fan but man i love the workers

1226
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:56,390
Captain Kirk Kirk yeah you're a con man

1227
00:49:00,010 --> 00:48:58,640
of the card oh I'm a shepherd a man

1228
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:00,020
through and through and that's because i

1229
00:49:03,940 --> 00:49:02,210
like the archer I like Captain Archer

1230
00:49:05,859 --> 00:49:03,950
look and look I also was a fan of

1231
00:49:07,690 --> 00:49:05,869
Captain Janeway's here doing the first

1232
00:49:09,370 --> 00:49:07,700
season of voyager as well I just want to

1233
00:49:10,690 --> 00:49:09,380
say that right now but you know I like

1234
00:49:12,130 --> 00:49:10,700
cook because the tories showed all the

1235
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:12,140
time and cause he had a great but like

1236
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:14,240
they did look at his but Bill's podcast

1237
00:49:17,710 --> 00:49:16,250
celebrates every week but I think I'm

1238
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:17,720
hogging too much time you should get

1239
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:19,130
into something genuinely skeptical

1240
00:49:26,170 --> 00:49:21,290
that's pretty skeptical what's better

1241
00:49:30,370 --> 00:49:26,180
Kirk or Picard or r2 d2 or mr. Spock

1242
00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:30,380
Frodo they're all good there's a

1243
00:49:34,060 --> 00:49:32,329
diplomatic answer we have to pin you

1244
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:34,070
down here which was the best captain in

1245
00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:35,510
Star Trek and we're including you know

1246
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:39,550
it deep space nine voyage ever lot I

1247
00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:44,720
have to go with Picard I think oh if

1248
00:49:50,530 --> 00:49:46,430
only for the facepalm pictures you have

1249
00:49:53,530 --> 00:49:50,540
to go it's one thing I noticed about

1250
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:53,540
watching a copious amounts of Star Trek

1251
00:49:57,339 --> 00:49:55,490
The Next Generation is all the actors

1252
00:50:01,329 --> 00:49:57,349
were given a certain instruction that

1253
00:50:04,829 --> 00:50:01,339
was too sigh an exhale loudly if you

1254
00:50:07,780 --> 00:50:04,839
watch it again all right number one

1255
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:07,790
whatever was the AG's know everyone do a

1256
00:50:10,770 --> 00:50:09,170
bit of a caring sharing kind of thing I

1257
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:10,780
mean for goodness sake they had a

1258
00:50:15,250 --> 00:50:13,490
therapist with the psycho abilities on

1259
00:50:17,140 --> 00:50:15,260
board oh yes you know she could see

1260
00:50:18,910 --> 00:50:17,150
things but also if you notice on this

1261
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:18,920
generation everyone boobs a fan of it

1262
00:50:22,329 --> 00:50:20,930
would know this the outfits were not

1263
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,339
quite right so whenever they sat down

1264
00:50:26,290 --> 00:50:24,800
you'd see them pull up their undies yes

1265
00:50:28,359 --> 00:50:26,300
and it happens all the time you know and

1266
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:28,369
you know because and also they're also

1267
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:30,079
the outfits were prone to the odd

1268
00:50:35,859 --> 00:50:32,720
cameltoe as well I understand but you

1269
00:50:37,660 --> 00:50:35,869
know what that's called when Patrick

1270
00:50:40,529 --> 00:50:37,670
Stewart used to adjust his tunic it was

1271
00:50:43,439 --> 00:50:40,539
called the Picard maneuver

1272
00:50:44,849 --> 00:50:43,449
oh that's pretty special look there's

1273
00:50:47,099 --> 00:50:44,859
something I want to mention to to all

1274
00:50:50,459 --> 00:50:47,109
the skeptics fans out there that have

1275
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:50,469
cats as a pet it was just something I'm

1276
00:50:53,249 --> 00:50:51,609
coming this is something I'm doing

1277
00:50:54,419 --> 00:50:53,259
announces that the skeptics meeting the

1278
00:50:56,009 --> 00:50:54,429
other night and a few people came up to

1279
00:50:58,019 --> 00:50:56,019
me and they said how did you know and of

1280
00:50:59,939 --> 00:50:58,029
course I did I just I've just got to

1281
00:51:01,589 --> 00:50:59,949
know I've been around a cat or two in my

1282
00:51:03,329 --> 00:51:01,599
time at four a.m. in the morning don't

1283
00:51:04,829 --> 00:51:03,339
ask any questions and of course I

1284
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:04,839
recorded them don't ask any questions

1285
00:51:09,809 --> 00:51:07,569
and so I've got recordings up to various

1286
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:09,819
cats snoring so if there's anyone out

1287
00:51:14,579 --> 00:51:12,880
there who has a cap that snores just get

1288
00:51:16,380 --> 00:51:14,589
a recording just be an iphone one or

1289
00:51:18,269 --> 00:51:16,390
something just get 20 seconds or so and

1290
00:51:19,439 --> 00:51:18,279
send it to me care of my website and I

1291
00:51:21,029 --> 00:51:19,449
would really I'd like to play a

1292
00:51:22,469 --> 00:51:21,039
selection of cat snoring on the radio

1293
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:22,479
and we can get in contact don't have a

1294
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:23,650
chat with you about it and that'd be

1295
00:51:27,029 --> 00:51:25,359
great because I reckon cat snoring it's

1296
00:51:29,279 --> 00:51:27,039
kind of funny because my first one shots

1297
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:29,289
he just kind of it once in a while then

1298
00:51:33,989 --> 00:51:32,319
they'd be like five seconds in again but

1299
00:51:35,729 --> 00:51:33,999
tinker my dad's cat oh I've hadn't been

1300
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:35,739
in contact with lately I thought someone

1301
00:51:42,329 --> 00:51:37,209
was trying to steal the car and drive it

1302
00:51:44,609 --> 00:51:42,339
was like like the undead but China

1303
00:51:46,649 --> 00:51:44,619
channel is cat so if you've got a cat

1304
00:51:48,059 --> 00:51:46,659
that snores record it and please sell me

1305
00:51:50,099 --> 00:51:48,069
the rhetoric and where can they say that

1306
00:51:52,229 --> 00:51:50,109
that's not cool Heisenberg yeah

1307
00:51:53,999 --> 00:51:52,239
Heisenberg snoring principal where can

1308
00:51:56,189 --> 00:51:54,009
they send it to manor oh that's a manor

1309
00:51:57,839 --> 00:51:56,199
calm that I you wear my podcast lives as

1310
00:51:59,429 --> 00:51:57,849
well and there won't be any noisy

1311
00:52:01,140 --> 00:51:59,439
children there but there will be music

1312
00:52:03,299 --> 00:52:01,150
and porn styles which is that's all you

1313
00:52:06,289 --> 00:52:03,309
really noisy staff members having a bit

1314
00:52:08,759 --> 00:52:06,299
of a time off now it's going to be fun

1315
00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:08,769
yes so what else anyone got it's been a

1316
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:10,329
big week and skepticism I mean Stephen

1317
00:52:14,849 --> 00:52:13,089
Fry who saw him oh yeah you were to see

1318
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:14,859
you yeah it may not know went to see him

1319
00:52:18,899 --> 00:52:16,569
and may not sat next to a very

1320
00:52:22,289 --> 00:52:18,909
good-looking person who was a

1321
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:22,299
photographer huh yeah it was great like

1322
00:52:30,449 --> 00:52:28,169
I mean normally when you normally

1323
00:52:31,919 --> 00:52:30,459
normally when you go to see a show I

1324
00:52:33,809 --> 00:52:31,929
mean you know there's no photography no

1325
00:52:35,279 --> 00:52:33,819
nothing like that so we're sting seeing

1326
00:52:38,609 --> 00:52:35,289
Stephen Fry everyone smile this guy gets

1327
00:52:41,339 --> 00:52:38,619
a huge full-size 35mm SLR camera a 5d at

1328
00:52:43,169 --> 00:52:41,349
it's taking shot could you do and then

1329
00:52:44,249 --> 00:52:43,179
put it in the bag and he was and I got

1330
00:52:45,779 --> 00:52:44,259
the car at the end of it and on my

1331
00:52:47,999 --> 00:52:45,789
myface page i got these great photos of

1332
00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:48,009
Stephen Fry and he was great and I

1333
00:52:51,630 --> 00:52:50,140
believe if he's looking I don't know a

1334
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:51,640
lot of his skeptical work but he's

1335
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:52,490
definitely one is

1336
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:55,280
oh yes absolutely and yes I I saw that

1337
00:53:00,160 --> 00:52:57,760
show as well and thoroughly enjoyed it

1338
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:00,170
so listeners if you ever get the chance

1339
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:02,240
to see Stephen Fry doing one of these

1340
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:04,640
monologues or talks by all means go

1341
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:09,010
ahead now drunken man man you were

1342
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:11,090
hollering me earlier and you wanted to

1343
00:53:15,340 --> 00:53:13,010
say something well that's right and yes

1344
00:53:17,950 --> 00:53:15,350
this podcast will be i think friday

1345
00:53:19,540 --> 00:53:17,960
night australian time on sunday i'll be

1346
00:53:21,550 --> 00:53:19,550
talking to the sydney atheist what date

1347
00:53:24,340 --> 00:53:21,560
is that that i actually don't know what

1348
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,350
that is it today Richard 66 that would

1349
00:53:27,730 --> 00:53:26,240
be Sunday the eighth of august i'll be

1350
00:53:30,310 --> 00:53:27,740
talking to the sydney atheists on the

1351
00:53:33,550 --> 00:53:30,320
subject of effective online skeptical

1352
00:53:35,230 --> 00:53:33,560
activism and in September I'll be

1353
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:35,240
delivering a similar talk to the Western

1354
00:53:40,540 --> 00:53:37,910
Sydney freethinkers those two talks will

1355
00:53:41,830 --> 00:53:40,550
be free check out the websites for

1356
00:53:43,150 --> 00:53:41,840
Sydney atheists and Western Sydney

1357
00:53:44,980 --> 00:53:43,160
freethinkers just google them up and

1358
00:53:46,690 --> 00:53:44,990
that will give you the venue details all

1359
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:46,700
i kind of think come along make comments

1360
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:48,530
ridicule me hair call do whatever you

1361
00:53:52,359 --> 00:53:50,570
like and where could be you up stack we

1362
00:53:55,660 --> 00:53:52,369
can do you off stage you can try where

1363
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:55,670
can we have a microphone where can

1364
00:54:00,730 --> 00:53:58,130
people go to watch those fabulous Meryl

1365
00:54:03,580 --> 00:54:00,740
videos oh you can get a youtube com

1366
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:03,590
forward slash that Merrill that's tha T

1367
00:54:12,010 --> 00:54:07,970
M ery l and check those out there I like

1368
00:54:14,170 --> 00:54:12,020
open in other events happening about the

1369
00:54:15,790 --> 00:54:14,180
place dr. Rocha and I and we're trying

1370
00:54:17,740 --> 00:54:15,800
to persuade may not to join us on this

1371
00:54:20,530 --> 00:54:17,750
little road trip we're going to be

1372
00:54:22,570 --> 00:54:20,540
heading down to Canberra as part of

1373
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:22,580
science activities down there on the

1374
00:54:27,070 --> 00:54:25,040
fifteenth of this month we're going to

1375
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:27,080
be king o'malley's irish pub which is

1376
00:54:33,370 --> 00:54:31,040
131 city walk in the acct that's a good

1377
00:54:35,170 --> 00:54:33,380
pub i'll be giving my talk on general

1378
00:54:38,410 --> 00:54:35,180
skepticism and rachey will be giving her

1379
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:38,420
talk on dr. rachey reports yeah i'm

1380
00:54:41,770 --> 00:54:39,680
going to give an update on some of the

1381
00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:41,780
avian stuff and some of the other

1382
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:43,430
investigations I've done in two old men

1383
00:54:47,859 --> 00:54:46,130
Richard so if you turn up about one

1384
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:47,869
o'clock there at King o'malley's irish

1385
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:50,770
pub on the fifteenth of august in the

1386
00:54:55,780 --> 00:54:52,490
canberra the Australian Capital

1387
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:55,790
Territory come swing by say hello and

1388
00:55:00,340 --> 00:54:58,160
hopefully enjoy our talks now you have

1389
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:00,350
some other news 4's Rachel well speaking

1390
00:55:04,890 --> 00:55:02,050
of alternative medicine

1391
00:55:07,590 --> 00:55:04,900
this week there was a story out of

1392
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:07,600
Sydney about a man who suffered severe

1393
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:10,210
lead poisoning and was hospitalized

1394
00:55:17,070 --> 00:55:13,210
after he was taking a course of

1395
00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:17,080
traditional medicines known as Aaron how

1396
00:55:21,870 --> 00:55:19,990
you vida are you being vigman ayurvedic

1397
00:55:26,670 --> 00:55:21,880
medicines which he had imported through

1398
00:55:28,380 --> 00:55:26,680
the intertubes from india hmm now when

1399
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:28,390
he presented the hospital toxicology

1400
00:55:32,970 --> 00:55:30,160
tests were done and the results revealed

1401
00:55:37,230 --> 00:55:32,980
that he had nine times the acceptable

1402
00:55:38,550 --> 00:55:37,240
level of lead in his blood and so yeah

1403
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:38,560
this was caused several months earlier

1404
00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:40,330
he brought these supplements and was

1405
00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:45,430
just taking them and that when they

1406
00:55:49,110 --> 00:55:46,990
actually tested the supplement they

1407
00:55:51,180 --> 00:55:49,120
found that it had high levels of not

1408
00:55:55,380 --> 00:55:51,190
just led but mercury and arsenic as well

1409
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:55,390
ah which all natural right naturalness

1410
00:55:59,730 --> 00:55:58,000
yes yes yeah and just to tie back to an

1411
00:56:02,160 --> 00:55:59,740
earlier story as well the current cover

1412
00:56:05,790 --> 00:56:02,170
story on the AV ends magazine is a aveda

1413
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:05,800
for children yeah so yeah just just to

1414
00:56:09,870 --> 00:56:07,450
hammer that out we're not making that up

1415
00:56:12,990 --> 00:56:09,880
why are they've written an article about

1416
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:13,000
how r aveda is good for children so I

1417
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:14,710
mean though but but the funny thing is

1418
00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:16,960
Jason they worried about a little bit of

1419
00:56:23,790 --> 00:56:21,190
thimerosal in the back 0.01 milligrams

1420
00:56:25,470 --> 00:56:23,800
of thumb aerosol in a vaccine but your

1421
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:25,480
grams of it in this area Vedic stuff

1422
00:56:30,810 --> 00:56:28,510
yeah which understand scales you know

1423
00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:30,820
they've got no idea of numbers no they

1424
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:32,380
didn't really learn take just just that

1425
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:34,810
sentence is almost quick stop it after

1426
00:56:38,940 --> 00:56:37,210
they've got no idea oh yeah that's right

1427
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:38,950
no idea can I just give a little example

1428
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:41,170
of what little idea they have of numbers

1429
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:43,330
I got so many I'm getting so many lulz

1430
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:45,730
out of the H Triple C complaint and I'm

1431
00:56:49,860 --> 00:56:47,410
actually going through it and compiling

1432
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:49,870
all the biggest ones but there's one I

1433
00:56:55,710 --> 00:56:53,050
came across yesterday where Merrill had

1434
00:56:58,770 --> 00:56:55,720
talked about the micro grams of

1435
00:57:00,620 --> 00:56:58,780
aluminium in vaccines or something and

1436
00:57:02,550 --> 00:57:00,630
how that exceeded the EPA's

1437
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:02,560
recommendation for the safe level of

1438
00:57:08,850 --> 00:57:06,250
aluminium and in the edge CC report they

1439
00:57:11,970 --> 00:57:08,860
said we know the the levels that are

1440
00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:11,980
acceptable a save point four percent

1441
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:13,990
weight per volume and what's in the

1442
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:14,400
vaccine

1443
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,170
is point zero zero zero two percent

1444
00:57:23,809 --> 00:57:18,000
weight per volume now Merle right back

1445
00:57:26,059 --> 00:57:23,819
to the HW I'm not making this up and she

1446
00:57:29,089 --> 00:57:26,069
said this statement is misleading

1447
00:57:31,819 --> 00:57:29,099
because you've converted from weights /

1448
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:31,829
from weight per volume percentage from

1449
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:35,089
my micrograms therefore it's misleading

1450
00:57:39,470 --> 00:57:37,920
so she doesn't understand the change she

1451
00:57:41,390 --> 00:57:39,480
doesn't understand that you can convert

1452
00:57:43,940 --> 00:57:41,400
from one between percentages two

1453
00:57:45,620 --> 00:57:43,950
micrograms she also thinks that the

1454
00:57:47,420 --> 00:57:45,630
childhood vaccination schedule in

1455
00:57:51,799 --> 00:57:47,430
Australia which is I forever correctly

1456
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:51,809
12 shots consists of 31 that's because

1457
00:57:55,819 --> 00:57:54,089
you get nine shots at the dpat vaccine

1458
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:55,829
when you actually get three but you

1459
00:58:00,289 --> 00:57:57,450
count individual diseases but the thing

1460
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,299
is deep EIT covers six and you'd only

1461
00:58:04,730 --> 00:58:02,400
counts MMR is one which covers three she

1462
00:58:06,349 --> 00:58:04,740
can't count wait a minute wait a minute

1463
00:58:11,410 --> 00:58:06,359
doesn't matter didn't you say that you

1464
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:14,720
waiting to happen the numbers are most

1465
00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:19,760
Mary blog it's funny I you you don't

1466
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:23,310
have the one about converting

1467
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:26,730
I knew you talk about me like this as a

1468
00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:28,650
broadcaster with the ABC like this sort

1469
00:58:32,090 --> 00:58:30,540
of information was presented to me like

1470
00:58:33,830 --> 00:58:32,100
I'd react like this i just wouldn't say

1471
00:58:35,930 --> 00:58:33,840
anything like you guys can just just say

1472
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:35,940
whatever you like i like because because

1473
00:58:38,810 --> 00:58:37,440
good so I'm just trying to be polite

1474
00:58:40,490 --> 00:58:38,820
here because it's there because if

1475
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:40,500
meryl's in front I'd have to I'm

1476
00:58:52,690 --> 00:58:41,970
behaving now as if Mara was in front of

1477
00:58:55,250 --> 00:58:52,700
me I think you shouldn't be running a

1478
00:58:57,590 --> 00:58:55,260
vaccination information service that's

1479
00:58:59,150 --> 00:58:57,600
supposed to be a vaccine watchdog if you

1480
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:59,160
can't count and you can't convert

1481
00:59:07,340 --> 00:59:00,960
between units that's why I can't turn

1482
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:07,350
over order just the wrong size I thought

1483
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:18,210
you said six inches across no that's

1484
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:19,290
something you wouldn't he only ever you

1485
00:59:23,810 --> 00:59:22,770
say you never hear Phillip Adams

1486
00:59:27,650 --> 00:59:23,820
complaining about the difference between

1487
00:59:29,570 --> 00:59:27,660
six inches and 12 then again he shows on

1488
00:59:32,510 --> 00:59:29,580
later I don't hear everything cat

1489
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:32,520
snoring oh okay I'm busy recording the

1490
00:59:36,020 --> 00:59:34,110
cat instead of us knew Philip Adams yes

1491
00:59:37,250 --> 00:59:36,030
that's right now look at something on

1492
00:59:38,510 --> 00:59:37,260
there's some stuff coming up though I

1493
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:38,520
think everyone out there should watch me

1494
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:40,410
yes if you believe it it's kind of cool

1495
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:41,730
and if you don't it's kind of

1496
00:59:45,650 --> 00:59:43,290
interesting but then again I don't know

1497
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,660
a lot of you don't in certain didn't

1498
00:59:49,490 --> 00:59:47,760
enjoy the three our experience of what

1499
00:59:51,890 --> 00:59:49,500
the bleep do we know dr. Rachel believe

1500
00:59:54,590 --> 00:59:51,900
you did not enjoy that movie at all okay

1501
00:59:56,420 --> 00:59:54,600
okay well maybe you could try on the

1502
00:59:58,300 --> 00:59:56,430
history channel on sunday night at eight

1503
01:00:03,050 --> 00:59:58,310
thirty it's the second part of ancient

1504
01:00:04,430 --> 01:00:03,060
astronauts after we know this is what i

1505
01:00:05,870 --> 01:00:04,440
thought this is what i thought that it

1506
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:05,880
was going to be Erich von Daniken and

1507
01:00:09,860 --> 01:00:08,490
yes he's in it but he's just one of the

1508
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:09,870
many people in it and I think I might

1509
01:00:14,780 --> 01:00:12,690
have been you that that sent to me that

1510
01:00:16,810 --> 01:00:14,790
Erich von den ii just won't stay

1511
01:00:18,670 --> 01:00:16,820
discredited and i love that

1512
01:00:19,870 --> 01:00:18,680
it's great so he's in there a lot of

1513
01:00:21,070 --> 01:00:19,880
other people and they go to lots of

1514
01:00:22,450 --> 01:00:21,080
sites around the world and they're

1515
01:00:24,250 --> 01:00:22,460
trying to get the ancient astronaut

1516
01:00:25,390 --> 01:00:24,260
theory going again I just found it

1517
01:00:27,310 --> 01:00:25,400
interesting cuz I just don't know what

1518
01:00:28,930 --> 01:00:27,320
the why this one should be brought up

1519
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:28,940
again I think its new resting like this

1520
01:00:34,210 --> 01:00:32,210
it's was the seventies well it's it's

1521
01:00:36,130 --> 01:00:34,220
like a throat yeah it's a 70 severe

1522
01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:36,140
revisiting the 70s it's been done and

1523
01:00:41,230 --> 01:00:39,470
dusted and retro retro it's retro it's

1524
01:00:42,430 --> 01:00:41,240
retro that's why it's popular but we

1525
01:00:43,570 --> 01:00:42,440
have new people have been having a look

1526
01:00:44,860 --> 01:00:43,580
at it once again so that might be

1527
01:00:46,750 --> 01:00:44,870
something for the skeptics have a look

1528
01:00:48,730 --> 01:00:46,760
at our on Sunday night and also did

1529
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:48,740
anyone tune in to the I know what I saw

1530
01:00:54,490 --> 01:00:51,410
on the ABC this week the no i didn't but

1531
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:54,500
it's on I've you on the ABC website we

1532
01:00:58,060 --> 01:00:56,000
can watch it again and again more

1533
01:01:00,010 --> 01:00:58,070
because that and out of the blue by mr.

1534
01:01:02,860 --> 01:01:00,020
Fox the aput that together look I

1535
01:01:05,380 --> 01:01:02,870
enjoyed out of the blue and I enjoyed I

1536
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:05,390
know what I saw but I think don't think

1537
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:07,040
it's quite exactly right because the

1538
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:09,530
people were about where they were former

1539
01:01:13,660 --> 01:01:10,970
astronauts they were governor's our

1540
01:01:15,340 --> 01:01:13,670
policemen our people of authority that

1541
01:01:16,750 --> 01:01:15,350
think they saw something and they just

1542
01:01:18,790 --> 01:01:16,760
don't know what they saw so more

1543
01:01:21,790 --> 01:01:18,800
correctly it should be cool that I wrote

1544
01:01:23,380 --> 01:01:21,800
it down I believe I saw something but I

1545
01:01:25,540 --> 01:01:23,390
don't know what it is I think would

1546
01:01:27,870 --> 01:01:25,550
probably be more correct there were

1547
01:01:30,130 --> 01:01:27,880
people too long for the screen I know

1548
01:01:31,930 --> 01:01:30,140
well there were people that were harsher

1549
01:01:35,050 --> 01:01:31,940
on that that I read online that said I

1550
01:01:37,150 --> 01:01:35,060
don't know what I saw or I know what I

1551
01:01:40,690 --> 01:01:37,160
believe I saw they were saying but I

1552
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:40,700
have no bloody idea look and these were

1553
01:01:43,870 --> 01:01:42,410
people that really have nothing to gain

1554
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:43,880
by coming forward in claiming that they

1555
01:01:47,140 --> 01:01:45,110
saw some of your further move in a

1556
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:47,150
spaceship so that makes me wonder I know

1557
01:01:50,980 --> 01:01:49,010
skeptics out there go Maynard you're

1558
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:50,990
being fooled by whoo but you know may

1559
01:01:56,020 --> 01:01:54,050
not do being fooled by room but you know

1560
01:01:57,340 --> 01:01:56,030
I you know I mean if you're flying along

1561
01:01:58,750 --> 01:01:57,350
as a pilot you see something weird

1562
01:02:01,000 --> 01:01:58,760
object next to you for a period of time

1563
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:01,010
you can observe that bounces off radar I

1564
01:02:03,970 --> 01:02:02,570
mean you know that is something and in

1565
01:02:06,010 --> 01:02:03,980
the court of law you would have to take

1566
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:06,020
that person's eyewitness testimony for

1567
01:02:09,940 --> 01:02:07,730
something now with you convicted court

1568
01:02:13,330 --> 01:02:09,950
of law and sides contains a different

1569
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:13,340
page in science we don't take it exactly

1570
01:02:16,300 --> 01:02:14,570
that that so I mean we're just which is

1571
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:16,310
why it's difficult to find those two UFO

1572
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:18,050
parts you guys always looking for you

1573
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:18,650
know always

1574
01:02:21,250 --> 01:02:20,210
for those I catch you they're out there

1575
01:02:22,090 --> 01:02:21,260
just people that will bring them fall

1576
01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:22,100
because they're worried about your

1577
01:02:30,070 --> 01:02:23,950
pooper Ingham you see that you care

1578
01:02:31,690 --> 01:02:30,080
swiping sorry I noticed bastard sheep

1579
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:31,700
you brought your busted sheep tonight

1580
01:02:36,130 --> 01:02:33,650
yep that's where it is it's the little

1581
01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:36,140
purple sheep areas he's faking from from

1582
01:02:39,730 --> 01:02:37,760
champagne already I think he's a friend

1583
01:02:42,310 --> 01:02:39,740
of little nonington Oh little not make

1584
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:42,320
sense here by the way oh it's a lovely

1585
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:43,970
purple sheep and it's got an ear tag

1586
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:46,010
that says bastard sheep proprietary

1587
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:49,130
limited on and also we're in the middle

1588
01:02:53,020 --> 01:02:51,410
of an election campaigning I wonder

1589
01:02:54,730 --> 01:02:53,030
where skip I can't say much because

1590
01:02:56,290 --> 01:02:54,740
being an ABC employ if I say like

1591
01:02:58,090 --> 01:02:56,300
someone next time we get someone who's

1592
01:02:59,830 --> 01:02:58,100
not that person interview situation they

1593
01:03:01,810 --> 01:02:59,840
might come down on me but is there a

1594
01:03:03,820 --> 01:03:01,820
skeptics party is there someone that

1595
01:03:06,490 --> 01:03:03,830
skeptics would lean too I mean what are

1596
01:03:08,470 --> 01:03:06,500
the skeptical issues for the Solaris I'd

1597
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:08,480
like to put a plug in for Fiona Patten

1598
01:03:12,190 --> 01:03:10,130
from the sex party who seems to be the

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01:03:14,050 --> 01:03:12,200
most sensible political person on the

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01:03:16,420 --> 01:03:14,060
landscape right now today she did a

1601
01:03:19,030 --> 01:03:16,430
lovely article gizmodo com the other day

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01:03:20,980 --> 01:03:19,040
on the internet censorship I'd make it

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01:03:22,750 --> 01:03:20,990
was looking I saw her debating I saw the

1604
01:03:25,930 --> 01:03:22,760
debating family first I'm talking about

1605
01:03:29,470 --> 01:03:25,940
that's hilarious laughs there's also the

1606
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:29,480
secular party second I already good one

1607
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:32,090
of our friends in Tasmania I can't

1608
01:03:35,470 --> 01:03:33,610
remember his name sorry buddy it's

1609
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:35,480
thinking of running for the secular

1610
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:36,530
parties probably too late for this

1611
01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:38,210
registration now but the sacrifice in

1612
01:03:42,430 --> 01:03:39,680
the twitter news quite a lot at the

1613
01:03:43,690 --> 01:03:42,440
moment and that yeah yeah pretty good

1614
01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:43,700
pretty good then of course with the

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01:03:48,030 --> 01:03:46,310
hashtag oz boats we'll put it we'll put

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01:03:50,110 --> 01:03:48,040
everything up all the ABC sites across

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01:03:51,550 --> 01:03:50,120
Australia I've got the Twitter tag rang

1618
01:03:53,860 --> 01:03:51,560
frost vote so whenever you put on all

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01:03:56,650 --> 01:03:53,870
votes will go on the ABC election sites

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01:03:59,590 --> 01:03:56,660
across the planet and also if you deploy

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01:04:01,240 --> 01:03:59,600
if anything we tell you what I yes

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01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:01,250
anything because i have actually checked

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01:04:04,510 --> 01:04:02,570
it and you put anything up it goes

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01:04:08,350 --> 01:04:04,520
through and it's the ABC social area

1625
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:08,360
positive i must admit i I enjoy watching

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01:04:12,220 --> 01:04:10,610
election election night coverage on the

1627
01:04:14,290 --> 01:04:12,230
telly week I'll sit there with a rather

1628
01:04:16,030 --> 01:04:14,300
drink and see what the results coming in

1629
01:04:17,620 --> 01:04:16,040
now this one is going to be particularly

1630
01:04:19,690 --> 01:04:17,630
interesting because I can't call it now

1631
01:04:22,990 --> 01:04:19,700
well and also if you are on Twitter

1632
01:04:24,460 --> 01:04:23,000
there follow the fake Paul Keating I'm

1633
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:24,470
enjoying his comments they're quite

1634
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:26,810
rival to use the word their bit rude not

1635
01:04:29,970 --> 01:04:28,490
ones for the kids but then again neither

1636
01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:29,980
was Paul Keating in his awesome Oh

1637
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:31,990
Paul Keating was a former prime minister

1638
01:04:36,270 --> 01:04:34,570
now doc Tracy are pointing at your

1639
01:04:37,620 --> 01:04:36,280
computer screen there look I've just got

1640
01:04:39,890 --> 01:04:37,630
an interesting story which was blogged

1641
01:04:42,990 --> 01:04:39,900
about on Frank ela this week by pz myers

1642
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:43,000
and it's about gullibility destroying

1643
01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:45,760
lives now it's a story of a Vietnamese

1644
01:04:48,570 --> 01:04:46,990
couple and they're apparently from

1645
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:48,580
Australia but I haven't heard this story

1646
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:50,530
maybe I've missed it i don't know if you

1647
01:04:54,210 --> 01:04:53,050
guys have right today the names what did

1648
01:04:57,540 --> 01:04:54,220
you read it in the news or I'm friend

1649
01:05:00,599 --> 01:04:57,550
along oh ok so it has happened if it was

1650
01:05:02,940 --> 01:05:00,609
on the news that must be true yeah so

1651
01:05:05,580 --> 01:05:02,950
this couple of our names of trans they

1652
01:05:07,290 --> 01:05:05,590
were missing a wallet and so they went

1653
01:05:09,570 --> 01:05:07,300
to a fortune teller to ask before she

1654
01:05:11,790 --> 01:05:09,580
tell her where it was and that's the

1655
01:05:13,230 --> 01:05:11,800
first thing I do when I wallet yeah I

1656
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:13,240
don't generally call the police or

1657
01:05:17,550 --> 01:05:15,010
cancel my cards I go to the nearest

1658
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:17,560
fortune teller and say please tell me

1659
01:05:22,590 --> 01:05:19,810
where it is so the fortune teller

1660
01:05:24,930 --> 01:05:22,600
apparently told them that a young woman

1661
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:24,940
by the name of Leilani who was living

1662
01:05:28,740 --> 01:05:27,010
with them had stolen the wallet that was

1663
01:05:35,130 --> 01:05:28,750
a prize-winning Greyhound as well I'm

1664
01:05:37,050 --> 01:05:35,140
pretty sure sweet Leilani anyway um so

1665
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:37,060
that these people believe the fortune

1666
01:05:40,590 --> 01:05:38,290
teller that it was this woman that they

1667
01:05:42,810 --> 01:05:40,600
were living with and so they decided

1668
01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:42,820
that the best way to get the wallet back

1669
01:05:48,060 --> 01:05:45,280
was to torture the woman what well I

1670
01:05:50,130 --> 01:05:48,070
know it worked in Guantanamo Bay them oh

1671
01:05:54,810 --> 01:05:50,140
don't know if at work will be political

1672
01:05:56,460 --> 01:05:54,820
this so was it like was it so Tarantino

1673
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:56,470
thing are more like a marathon man thing

1674
01:06:00,240 --> 01:05:57,970
what they do well I'll tell you what

1675
01:06:02,550 --> 01:06:00,250
they did they said that they would cut

1676
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:02,560
off her fingers but because you don't

1677
01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:04,090
know your about because they loved her

1678
01:06:09,950 --> 01:06:05,710
they wanted to inject her with heroin

1679
01:06:13,620 --> 01:06:09,960
first so she wouldn't feel it and then

1680
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:13,630
and then she says that she was beaten in

1681
01:06:18,210 --> 01:06:15,970
the back with a meat cleaver threatened

1682
01:06:22,109 --> 01:06:18,220
with a samurai sword and had her arms

1683
01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:22,119
burnt with cigarettes Tarantino yeah and

1684
01:06:27,660 --> 01:06:24,609
then they decided in the end that they

1685
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:27,670
would play loudly on repeat lady gaga

1686
01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:29,770
see this is the bit that makes me think

1687
01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:30,910
it's a bit of a

1688
01:06:35,460 --> 01:06:33,910
I think I'm ivy I don't know I'm like

1689
01:06:37,349 --> 01:06:35,470
you know the whole that was pretty right

1690
01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:37,359
the Tarantino thing including the heroin

1691
01:06:40,109 --> 01:06:38,799
by the way all the way through there but

1692
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:40,119
the lady gap but then again I'd know

1693
01:06:44,970 --> 01:06:42,910
yeah that's what she says that out on

1694
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:44,980
the borderline yeah she says I was

1695
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:46,450
screaming I was hoping maybe somebody

1696
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:47,680
would break the door down and help me

1697
01:06:53,940 --> 01:06:49,210
and that's in response to the lady gaga

1698
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:53,950
CD side she says apparently she escaped

1699
01:06:59,039 --> 01:06:56,490
and she's not dead what's the sauce well

1700
01:07:01,410 --> 01:06:59,049
this is this is for angular that I'm

1701
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:01,420
reading but jason says he Frank pretty

1702
01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:03,250
sure I followed some stuff today I'm

1703
01:07:07,770 --> 01:07:05,440
very very skin though I'm not going to

1704
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:07,780
put any credence on it yet yeah yeah

1705
01:07:10,529 --> 01:07:09,250
have to research this and make sure all

1706
01:07:12,450 --> 01:07:10,539
right we just have to list this one as

1707
01:07:16,890 --> 01:07:12,460
we're not sure yet what's really going I

1708
01:07:19,470 --> 01:07:16,900
opposable laws about law zabal yeah and

1709
01:07:21,420 --> 01:07:19,480
a big hi to the Mythbusters who I know

1710
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:21,430
listen to the skeptic zone inning enjoy

1711
01:07:25,079 --> 01:07:23,049
the show that's right and tune in to the

1712
01:07:27,630 --> 01:07:25,089
Nerdist podcast as the second recent

1713
01:07:29,339 --> 01:07:27,640
Nerdist podcast has all the Mythbusters

1714
01:07:31,710 --> 01:07:29,349
the complete cast on stage at comic-con

1715
01:07:33,059 --> 01:07:31,720
I believe in the US so tune in to that

1716
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:33,069
have a listen and i'm hoping to get

1717
01:07:36,930 --> 01:07:35,049
interview with the editor who edits up

1718
01:07:39,299 --> 01:07:36,940
the Mythbusters here in Australia and

1719
01:07:40,859 --> 01:07:39,309
also Simon de the ex lead singer of red

1720
01:07:42,510 --> 01:07:40,869
cat is also involved with the production

1721
01:07:43,980 --> 01:07:42,520
of Mythbusters Tunis trainer I hope to

1722
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:43,990
have a chat to both of them and maybe

1723
01:07:47,220 --> 01:07:45,490
you'll sing don't go now for me as well

1724
01:07:48,990 --> 01:07:47,230
which I love that song it's a great show

1725
01:07:51,420 --> 01:07:49,000
i watch it every week thoroughly enjoyed

1726
01:07:52,289 --> 01:07:51,430
Mythbusters it's an upcoming mean when I

1727
01:07:53,730 --> 01:07:52,299
say you've got a lover because the

1728
01:07:55,529 --> 01:07:53,740
Germans make great stuff who am I

1729
01:08:00,269 --> 01:07:55,539
talking about I'm talking about the

1730
01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:00,279
shamwow guy you know you're following me

1731
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:03,039
camera guy I'm talking about him and I

1732
01:08:05,730 --> 01:08:04,450
was watching TV today and it's probably

1733
01:08:07,559 --> 01:08:05,740
our international friends prolly

1734
01:08:09,269 --> 01:08:07,569
releasing this but I saw on Fox door for

1735
01:08:10,650 --> 01:08:09,279
the first time today he's new product is

1736
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:10,660
brought out which is called well which

1737
01:08:15,329 --> 01:08:13,210
is promoting the slap chop now if anyone

1738
01:08:17,070 --> 01:08:15,339
has been aware of the veg-o-matic by

1739
01:08:19,110 --> 01:08:17,080
Kate element seventies or the blitz

1740
01:08:21,599 --> 01:08:19,120
chopper as it was known in the US it's

1741
01:08:23,070 --> 01:08:21,609
basically one of them and i'll put a

1742
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:23,080
link to the blitz chopper on my facebook

1743
01:08:26,010 --> 01:08:24,250
page and i should put it up on my

1744
01:08:27,390 --> 01:08:26,020
website as well but basically he's got

1745
01:08:28,650 --> 01:08:27,400
great lines in this i think they're

1746
01:08:30,660 --> 01:08:28,660
going to go well he says things like

1747
01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:30,670
life's hard enough you don't want to cry

1748
01:08:33,780 --> 01:08:32,319
anymore I think that's great I think

1749
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:33,790
that's going to become a catch cry and

1750
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:35,440
at the end of the ad they say this and

1751
01:08:39,930 --> 01:08:37,120
this is actual words if you're not

1752
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:39,940
excited by your slap chop return it

1753
01:08:43,229 --> 01:08:41,890
within 30 days for your money back what

1754
01:08:43,650 --> 01:08:43,239
kind of person gets excited about an

1755
01:08:45,810 --> 01:08:43,660
onion

1756
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:45,820
he'll arriving in the mail really then

1757
01:08:49,620 --> 01:08:48,130
we're talking about flavorwave oven I

1758
01:08:51,330 --> 01:08:49,630
get excited about things like it's a

1759
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:51,340
machine you put the food under and go

1760
01:08:56,370 --> 01:08:53,530
bang down your chops it up pretty

1761
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:56,380
exciting it will Co excited it's excited

1762
01:08:59,520 --> 01:08:57,970
about already so I think we could have

1763
01:09:01,260 --> 01:08:59,530
more action going on the slap chop in

1764
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:01,270
future but do check out the veg-o-matic

1765
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:04,000
and blitz chopper on YouTube oh you're

1766
01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:05,170
both going to check out the shamwow

1767
01:09:08,940 --> 01:09:06,430
which is basically just a glorified

1768
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:08,950
chamois shabby yeah yeah but it's with

1769
01:09:14,370 --> 01:09:12,370
added Wow is that right but I'm still

1770
01:09:16,710 --> 01:09:14,380
having found mr. T's flavorwave oven

1771
01:09:18,210 --> 01:09:16,720
adverts oh yes Haley but but look it's

1772
01:09:20,010 --> 01:09:18,220
great with this whole shamwow think it's

1773
01:09:22,440 --> 01:09:20,020
like when I'm DJing what I'm gonna do is

1774
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:22,450
get the shamwow out and go along the bar

1775
01:09:25,830 --> 01:09:24,310
and people see I've gotta share mail and

1776
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:25,840
they think it's funny it's like it's so

1777
01:09:30,030 --> 01:09:28,210
saturated and it runs mine but you know

1778
01:09:31,980 --> 01:09:30,040
you just wipe down a bar with a sham wow

1779
01:09:33,630 --> 01:09:31,990
I guess maybe seeing a DJ do that's

1780
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:33,640
fairly unusual so that while there could

1781
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:35,050
be laughing as well but like you know

1782
01:09:37,650 --> 01:09:36,730
getting a meme like that's amazing and

1783
01:09:39,630 --> 01:09:37,660
that's what we're trying to do here on

1784
01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:39,640
the skeptic zone start a main Richard we

1785
01:09:44,820 --> 01:09:41,920
should we should I think we have already

1786
01:09:46,410 --> 01:09:44,830
and I'd like to thank for this evening

1787
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:46,420
anyway frota thank you photo for coming

1788
01:09:52,770 --> 01:09:48,400
along a pleasure can you say goodbye

1789
01:09:55,710 --> 01:09:52,780
Norwegian hotter that's better I like

1790
01:09:57,570 --> 01:09:55,720
that front of England bastard sheet see

1791
01:10:01,890 --> 01:09:57,580
everybody and thank you for the little

1792
01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:01,900
bastard cheaper came along thank you may

1793
01:10:05,070 --> 01:10:03,310
not thank you for listening everybody

1794
01:10:07,410 --> 01:10:05,080
please tune in to the Nerdist podcast

1795
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:07,420
the no agenda show podcast the skip

1796
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:09,310
toward podcast and my podcast and where

1797
01:10:13,620 --> 01:10:11,110
can they where can a lessness hear you

1798
01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:13,630
on the radio oh look all over the place

1799
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:15,490
mainly I do stuff for the ABC but they

1800
01:10:17,940 --> 01:10:16,690
like to keep it kind of secret because

1801
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:17,950
the more that I'm up there the more

1802
01:10:21,480 --> 01:10:19,570
complaints they get and so you know so

1803
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:21,490
basically just just go to your local ABC

1804
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:23,050
and so does may not work here and

1805
01:10:26,580 --> 01:10:24,610
they'll probably deny it portable

1806
01:10:27,810 --> 01:10:26,590
deniability lawyers of name may not calm

1807
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:27,820
that I you as we can get stuff and

1808
01:10:33,290 --> 01:10:28,930
that's where you can send the recordings

1809
01:10:37,979 --> 01:10:35,760
drunken madman you kidding me everyone

1810
01:10:41,419 --> 01:10:37,989
and don't forget come see me talk and go

1811
01:10:46,290 --> 01:10:41,429
to my blog my colleagues are idiots calm

1812
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:46,300
dr. H E I have nothing to plug thank you

1813
01:10:51,540 --> 01:10:48,610
for coming that's okay and I'm till our

1814
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:51,550
next escapade in the drunk tank cheers

1815
01:11:03,000 --> 01:10:54,610
everybody yeah wives have enough you

1816
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:03,010
don't cry anymore I just heard that all

1817
01:11:31,149 --> 01:11:28,600
thank you for listening to the skeptic

1818
01:11:33,820 --> 01:11:31,159
zone now I hope we can see some of you

1819
01:11:35,770 --> 01:11:33,830
in Canberra as we mentioned in the the

1820
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:35,780
think tank dr. reaching myself on the

1821
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:38,810
fifteenth giving out talks down there at

1822
01:11:44,260 --> 01:11:42,290
King O'Malley's pub but until then or

1823
01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:44,270
until next time or until next week when

1824
01:11:48,310 --> 01:11:45,710
we'll have another interview I think

1825
01:11:50,830 --> 01:11:48,320
from the amazing meeting eight this is

1826
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:50,840
Richard Saunders signing off from Sydney

1827
01:12:00,640 --> 01:11:56,330
Australia you've been listening to the

1828
01:12:03,850 --> 01:12:00,650
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1829
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:03,860
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